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Old 04-17-2006, 05:46 PM
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THIS IS WHAT WAS GIVEN TO ME AND THIS IS WHAT HAS COME UP SO FAR.


Okay, here you go. This will give you the hard, defined lean look
that I asume you are looking for.

Wks 1-6 Tren Ace 75mg/ED
Wks 1-12 Eq 600mg/EW
Wks 7-10 Winny 100mg/ED
Wks 1-12 Test E 500mg/EW

Wks 14-16 40mg Nolva ED
WKs 16-18 20mg Nolva ED



THIS WAS WRITTEN UP WITH VERY FEW DETAILS FROM MYSELF. AND ASKED IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE THAT I COULD GIVE HIM IN ORDER TO CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE AS YOU WILLL SEE MY RESPONSE DOWN BELOW.


Pics, diet, experience lifting, experience with AAS, age, height,
routines,weight, work habits, eating habits etc


MY RESPONSE WAS THE FOLLOWING.



I have attached some pics that a friend of mine took for me. this
past saturday. now i realize i might not be cut. but i truly
believe i can get ultra ripped with hard work. its been 15 yrs
since i have tried any kind of bodybuilding. pic number 6 is what i
will want to look like when i go back to powerlifting.

right now i want to get cut and big. for once in my life i would
like to see what i would look like at 5'9" 250-270 ripped lbs.

i have been lifting for 18 yrs. when i first started i got into
bodybuilding for a little bit. but when i started powerlifting i
was hooked.

i have done 5 cycles oh make that 6 with my last one i just got off
of.

im 34, 5'9" and weigh about 264. as you can see in the pics i have
a lote of work to do. i have also attached my last powerlifting
workout for you to look at. im having a very well known bodybuilder
help me with my traing program pending how long my cycle will be. i
would like to do it for 16 weeks then PCT.

work habits right now are stressful but that comes with my job.

my eating habits are ok but they can be greatly improved. i have
found a dietician that will set me up with my diet program.

also i have used Test En and EQ twice before and would like to try
something else. i attached my last cycle of what i did for you to
look at. just finished it up. when you look at the cycle it will
say test. that was Test E i was on. can you change these two thing
in my cycle. thanx again for all your help and hope to hear from you soon.

I WILL POST SOME PICS HERE. TO SHOW YOU WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR. HOPE IT WORKS. RIGHT NOW I AM JUST LOOKING TO GET HARD AND RIPPED.


I CANT SEEM TO SHRINK MY PICS SMALL ENOUGH TO POST ANY IDEAS HOW I CAN FIX THIS OR PRIVATE MESSAGE SOME ONE. THE PICS GET DISTORTED A LOT. DIS COLORATION.
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Old 04-17-2006, 05:58 PM
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First off I have to ask if you've ever taken Tren before... The Tren and EQ will give you some rock hard gains..

If you eat clean while on this cycle you will definitely achieve the goals you are striving for..I love this cycle, I have taken it in the past w/o the winny of course and I put on about 13lbs of solid mass. Kept 10 of it..
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THANX FOR RESPONDING. i MISUNDERSTOOD YOU. MY BAD. ANYWAY, NO I HAVE NOT USED TREN BEFORE. BUT WITH EQ MAN I LOVE THIS STUFF. ALSO IS THERE A SUBTITUTE I CAN DO FOR THE "TEST T" EVERY TIME I HAVE TAKEN IT IT MAKES ME COUGH FOR 5 OR SO MINUTES STRAIGHT. I DIDNT LIKE IT TO MUCH. ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT ELSE I COULD TAKE? SO THE ABOVE CYCLE IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING TO DO. JUST WANT TO BE SURE BRO. THANX AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND SORRY AGAIN FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING. THE AVATAR THAT I WILL PUT UP TODAY IS WHAT I AM STRIVING TO LOOK LIKE. LATERS
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It's not the Test that's making you cough it's the Tren.. It's almost immediately after the injection.. Unfortunately there is no way to suppress this, that I know of anyway other than not taking it anymore..

I have done some research on this "tren cough" and have come up with mixed answers on why it is caused with this drug.. I'll turn to my good buddy Massacre to see if he has an theory on why it is caused.
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I MADE A MISSPELLING BRO. ITS "TEST ENANTHATE" THAT MADE ME COUGH NOT"TREN". OOPS ON MY PART.
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Turn your caps off, are you doubling the Test and Tren together? Or taking them in separate syringes??
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Here is a link I found for Tren cough: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archiv.../t-302861.html

Although it would 'appear' that tren cough is harmless, just make sure you drink a lot of water because it's highly toxic to the liver. You might also do some reasearch into natural liver detoxification like milk thistle as this certainly could not help.

I definitely would not run that tren longer than 6 weeks like you're planning on.
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I also found that injecting it slowly or mixing it with another AAS might help. Let us know if that works.
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I HAVE NEVER TAKEN Tren Ace BEFORE tiggerizme. SO STICK WITH THE CYCLE YOU HAVE WRITTEN FOR ME?



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I DO DRINK A LOT OF WATER WHEN I AM IN TRAINING ANYWHERE FROM A GALLON TO 2 GALLONS A DAY.
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You will do fine with this cycle. It is better to be running Tren Ace because if you begin to feel unbearable sides you can quit taking it and it will leave your system fairly quickly.. You will gain the size you are needing with that cycle..

The reason I was asking about doubling is because Tren is known to cause the coughing, not Test..
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