First cycle Tbol

[Syl]

Im about to start my first cycle.

Tbol is my drug of choice, and I know everyone says test should always be your base, but at this time im not interested in trying to deal with the side effects of test, nor am I able to put on too much mass too quickly, need to keep things on the DL and Tbol is a bit more subtle.

I have Turinabol 10mgx200 tablets
Nolvadex 20mgx50 tablets
and Armidex 1mgx30 ML

I already have had thoughts as to exactly how Im going to run this cycle, but Id like some more seasoned vets opinions on how long I should run it, at what dosages. Thanks for the help bros.

FYI I do know that the arimidex is probably largely unneeded as Tbol shouldn't raise estrogen lvs but I have it and would rather play all things safe.
one last question, Can taking an anti-estrogen by itself boost testosterone?

[Quazi]

If you really want "seasoned vets opinions" are you prepared to change your cycle?

[xb5869]

Originally Posted by Quazi

If you really want \"seasoned vets opinions\" are you prepared to change your cycle?

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you really shouldnt ask for what you dont want to hear lol

[Quazi]

For my next cycle I'm gonna run my girls birth control pills, starting at 1ed tapering up to 6ed, and then back down for 12 weeks........

[awakened615]

Originally Posted by Quazi

For my next cycle I'm gonna run my girls birth control pills, starting at 1ed tapering up to 6ed, and then back down for 12 weeks........

Yo let me get some of them from you. I just tried that with my girls shit and they sucked. I know your girl has the good ones. Especially if they make me look like you do

What exactly is a seasoned vet. a little salt pepper garlic and some paprika + obviously the vets where I take my dogs and wham a seasoned vet. Is that right?

Anyhow, seriously though, you need to change your cycle bro. You really think if you add test to the cycle your hair is going to fall out and your balls are going to shrivel up into little peas and your going to have so much acne you can't see you actual skin. Come one bro. Judging by what you wrote and what you asked IMO I think you need to either add test or save your T-bol till your actually ready to do a cycle. One other thing your not going to gain 100 lbs and look retardedly huge off of one cycle. Can you tell me what you weigh and what you diet and training look like? Just curious how much you eat a day right now and what you goals are for your T-bol only cycle.

[Quazi]

Originally Posted by Syl

nor am I able to put on too much mass too quickly

That is always my favorite line to see anywhere.....

I've been trying for like 10 years to to put on too much mass too quickly, and it hasnt worked yet lol

[beeman]

I agree. A simple 500mg of test a week has very few side effects for most people, and the most common side effect, increased estrogen and water retention, is combated by the arimidex. You need to get test and use that for your first cycle, with our without the turinabol. The gains are controlled by your diet, not the drugs.

[Syl]

My goal for the turinabol cycle would be to put on 10-12 lbs over the course of it.

Im not worried about taking test and losing my hair, every male on my mothers side has full heads of hair, and I can get finastride if need be.

I cant put on 30-40 lbs of mass that quick, I already get asked if Im on steroids.

Can anyone point out to me whats wrong with only using Tbol for a cycle?

[Quazi]

Originally Posted by Syl

My goal for the turinabol cycle would be to put on 10-12 lbs over the course of it.

Im not worried about taking test and losing my hair, every male on my mothers side has full heads of hair, and I can get finastride if need be.

I cant put on 30-40 lbs of mass that quick, I already get asked if Im on steroids.

Can anyone point out to me whats wrong with only using Tbol for a cycle?

Bwahahahahaha, u have waaaaaay to high of expectations for steroids bro.
And if by chance you did put on that much, run with it cause you're meant to be a pro.

NO ONE who looks like they're 'on steroids' has room to gain 40lbs on a cycle.... the bigger you are, the less room you have to gain.

And as for why test.... it's been answered a billion times, in fact, XB and I answered it in a convo yesterday.

[ajdos]

Originally Posted by Syl

My goal for the turinabol cycle would be to put on 10-12 lbs over the course of it.

Im not worried about taking test and losing my hair, every male on my mothers side has full heads of hair, and I can get finastride if need be.

I cant put on 30-40 lbs of mass that quick, I already get asked if Im on steroids.

Can anyone point out to me whats wrong with only using Tbol for a cycle?

If your gaining without using them - then why are you going to run a cycle? And Tbol isnt the worst thing in the world but 10-12 from Tbol alone- not gonna happen.
My advice - keep gaining natural as long as you can - throw AAS in there when the gains come to a stop.