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Old 06-25-2008, 02:05 AM
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Default First cycle in 8 yrs

Thought i'd rundown my first cycle i've done in 8 yrs, and get some advice and pointers..anything helps thanks
I usually see moderate gains from low doses, so since that seems to work for me, that's what I do..
If you guys think i'm wasting my time underdosing let me know though

1x Week 200mg Test-e and 50mg Prop
EOD 12.5mg inject (not oral) D-bol
I planned the cycle to last 8 weeks
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Default Re: First cycle in 8 yrs

NO, THIS IS JUST ABOUT RIGHT FOR YOU, ALTHOUGH I'D EITHER DO THE D-BOL ORAL OR DROP IT ALL TOGETHER, THATS JUST ME.

YOU HAVE STATED YOU GET GOOD GAINS FROM DOING LOW DOSES, MY FRIEND IS SIMILIAR TO YOU IN THAT REGARD AND COUPLE THAT WITH THE FACT THIS IS YOUR FIRST CYCLE IN 8 YEARS, YOUR BASICALLY STARTING FRESH, SO AT THIS POINT LOW DOSES WILL PRODUCE GOOD EFFECTS ANYWAYS .

THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND, IF YOU ONLY NEED THAT MUCH TO GET THE GAINS YOUR LOOKING FOR, WHY THEN WOULD YOU EVER USE MORE UNTIL WHAT YOUR USING CEASES TO PRODUCE THE RESULT YOU WANT?

NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ONE THINKS OF YOUR DOSES, YOU KNOW YOUR BODY, SO I SAY DO WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE, UNTIL IT NO LONGER WORKS, THEN CHANGE IT.

IF AFTER A FEW WEEKS YOUR NOT GETTING WHAT YOU EXPECTED UP THE DOSAGE A BIT, DON'T OVER COMPLICATE IT.
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I love inject dbol~! Always puts a smile on my face
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Default Re: First cycle in 8 yrs

This is great advice bro. Always have an open mind but never forget the basics which work for you and like TB said, up the dosage only when needed.

If it aint broke, don't fix it

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NO, THIS IS JUST ABOUT RIGHT FOR YOU, ALTHOUGH I'D EITHER DO THE D-BOL ORAL OR DROP IT ALL TOGETHER, THATS JUST ME.

YOU HAVE STATED YOU GET GOOD GAINS FROM DOING LOW DOSES, MY FRIEND IS SIMILIAR TO YOU IN THAT REGARD AND COUPLE THAT WITH THE FACT THIS IS YOUR FIRST CYCLE IN 8 YEARS, YOUR BASICALLY STARTING FRESH, SO AT THIS POINT LOW DOSES WILL PRODUCE GOOD EFFECTS ANYWAYS .

THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND, IF YOU ONLY NEED THAT MUCH TO GET THE GAINS YOUR LOOKING FOR, WHY THEN WOULD YOU EVER USE MORE UNTIL WHAT YOUR USING CEASES TO PRODUCE THE RESULT YOU WANT?

NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ONE THINKS OF YOUR DOSES, YOU KNOW YOUR BODY, SO I SAY DO WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE, UNTIL IT NO LONGER WORKS, THEN CHANGE IT.

IF AFTER A FEW WEEKS YOUR NOT GETTING WHAT YOU EXPECTED UP THE DOSAGE A BIT, DON'T OVER COMPLICATE IT.
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Default Re: First cycle in 8 yrs

To many inexperienced people this cycle would seem to be very under-dosed. However, since you know your body well and know that you respond best to lower dosages of gear then you are right on track. Always do what you know will work best regardless of what others may believe. I'm curious, the injectable d-bol, do you do injectable over oral out of necessity or by choice?
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I plan to start out the first cycle between 250-450 mg/week adjusting as necessary, but try to keep it as consistent as possible. One of the main things I learned with my earlier cycles, is that your body can process MUCH more nutrient intake, so managing that is key. After a month or two off, depending on how quick my boys come back, I will up the dose to about 300-500 mg/week depending on the results i'm getting. I always try to weigh the positives and negatives, I used to work in the medical field, so part of me says if i'm gonna do this, do it smart, but also there's no point if you're pumping lower dose for longer and getting less result. I will adjust on the fly and any advice is appreciated...
M2M, I get the D-bol inject out of necessity, as i get my gear in mex, and it's harder to hide 100 or more rattling pills in a bottle than 1 or 2 10ml bottles.. I have heard the oral is more liver toxic, but also better results,(is this true?) and of course injection frequency is an issue too..
Already thinking about the 2nd cycle...
300mg test-e every week to 10 days
200-250mg decca 1x week
anything to add? always appreciate the advice...
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Any gear that is ingested orally and in pill form will put more stress on the liver than it's injectable counterpart. I'm relatively certain that your injectable d-bol is equally effective as and less toxic than the oral version. This is of course experience based speculation from my use of oral d-bol; I haven't had the opportunity to use the injectable form.
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I plan to start out the first cycle between 250-450 mg/week adjusting as necessary, but try to keep it as consistent as possible. One of the main things I learned with my earlier cycles, is that your body can process MUCH more nutrient intake, so managing that is key. After a month or two off, depending on how quick my boys come back, I will up the dose to about 300-500 mg/week depending on the results i'm getting. I always try to weigh the positives and negatives, I used to work in the medical field, so part of me says if i'm gonna do this, do it smart, but also there's no point if you're pumping lower dose for longer and getting less result. I will adjust on the fly and any advice is appreciated...
M2M, I get the D-bol inject out of necessity, as i get my gear in mex, and it's harder to hide 100 or more rattling pills in a bottle than 1 or 2 10ml bottles.. I have heard the oral is more liver toxic, but also better results,(is this true?) and of course injection frequency is an issue too..
Already thinking about the 2nd cycle...
300mg test-e every week to 10 days
200-250mg decca 1x week
anything to add? always appreciate the advice...
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Default Re: First cycle in 8 yrs

i can just tell u my exp... i was off for a long time and went back with 400 to start and then went to 600 mgs a week. my past exp incl grams a week but i have no need for that now. there is a lot that went into my choices but...
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Default Re: First cycle in 8 yrs

M2M I have to disagree with you I was just talking to my doctor because she ordered me to get liver function tests and all kinds of other blood work. I asked her a similar question about something else between an injectable and an oral and she said all foriegn chemicals get metabolized through the liver. If it is toxic in oral form it is just as toxic in injectable form. Respectfully, Awakened
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awake, u are correct. a 17aa is just as toxic as a depot as it is as an oral. now I think the toxicity is overstated but thats not the point.
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