cycle critique.

[Prez420]

Im a few months from this cycle yet. I would like some insight and suggestions on any tweaks.


1-4 TestP 100 EOD
1-4 TestE 250 EW
5-12 TestE 600 EW
13-15 TestP 200 EOD

1-12 EQ EW 400mg

9-15 Winny 2xED 25mg (Proviron instead perhaps?)

4,8,12,16 HCG MWF 500iu

16-19 Nolva ED 40,30,20,10 ramping down each week

****Letro ED? do I need this? if so, how much to stave off gyno?

6'
31 Yy/o
270lbs (leaning down to 230 before cycling)
12 years weight training
ex college football player

I gain fat easier than most, but a nice side effect is my ability to easily gain muscle.

thanx for reading and any suggestions you may be able to give me.

[tiggerizme]

Personally I think you would benefit from the same dosage of Test E throughout the entire cycle. Also it's 250mg/mL therefore how exactly or why would you measure out 600mg's. Just go with 500mg/ew throughout. For your Test Prop you can keep that at 100mg/EOD and run it wks 10-14 or 12 -14 if you only want two weeks. Plus you'll be ready to start pct after your last shot. I would run EQ no less than 600mg/ew and run it from wk 1-12.. I don't even think you need Winny in that cycle. The Test prop is probably plenty.

[Prez420]

Originally Posted by tiggerizme

Personally I think you would benefit from the same dosage of Test E throughout the entire cycle. Also it's 250mg/mL therefore how exactly or why would you measure out 600mg's. Just go with 500mg/ew throughout. For your Test Prop you can keep that at 100mg/EOD and run it wks 10-14 or 12 -14 if you only want two weeks. Plus you'll be ready to start pct after your last shot. I would run EQ no less than 600mg/ew and run it from wk 1-12.. I don't even think you need Winny in that cycle. The Test prop is probably plenty.

Well I have 50ml of Test Prop that I would like to kickstart with and a 120ml of ICN Amps on the way. I would run the test depo the entire length but I have the prop and figured I would use it to MY best advantage.

I would probably just run 500mg of the depo... I just used 600mg as a number to equal the amount injected during weeks 1-4.

I only have 30ml of EQ 200 (6000mg) at the moment. I would need to pick up another vial of EQ.... oh darn

[Kartel]

what are your goals for this cycle?


Kartel

[Prez420]

lean mass builder. harden up. more vascular.

[Prez420]

Im thinking this is too much...

~4,8,12,16 HCG MWF 500iu~

maybe 250iu MWF or 500iu M&T

thoughts?

[Kartel]

I would drop the Prop at the begining and as well as dropping the winny and maybe look into some Var.run the testE for 13 weeks(500mg),the EQ for 12 weeks(400mg) and the Prop 2 weeks after last shot of testE at like 75mgED or 150EOD.

Kartel

[Prez420]

could u elaborate on these changes?

[Kartel]

what would you like to know?ie.what questions do you have?


Kartel

[Kartel]

I chose the length of EQ because I feel that it should run atleast 12 weeks for results.Also the EQ will take 3 weeks to leave the system and the TestE 2weeks.So you drop the EQ 1 week before the TestE and run the prop until TestE is out then start PCT 3days after last TestP.

Run the Var for the first 6 weeks and maybe proviron the rest of it...

The Hcg I personally run it about 250iu every 3rd day.Some may say that is too little but thats what i use and it works for me.

Kartel