test boosters for chicks?

[thebige]

What is there available for women as far as test boosters that is OTC and won't bombard them with sides. My gal and a friend of hers are always envious when guys get a surge of intensity and strength from products that specifically warn against female consumption. Can they take those products anyway without feeling as if they are taking anything near the level of a steroid?

[IronpumpedLady]

I highly doubt any OTC product giving a woman any results close to that of AAS, or a man for that. Nothing you can buy OTC is going to be any where near AAS. Some may come close to mimicking AAS, but none will give you the same results. I have heard of some of these giving some mild sides, but I image it will depend on the product and the individual. If they want to try them, have them cut all doses into 1/2 of the recommended and start slow like EOD and then build up, if they are concerned about sides. The FDA isn't going to allow anything on the market that will come near to being like AAS.


Stay Strong~~!!!
IPL

[thebige]

Originally Posted by IronpumpedLady

I highly doubt any OTC product giving a woman any results close to that of AAS, or a man for that. Nothing you can buy OTC is going to be any where near AAS. Some may come close to mimicking AAS, but none will give you the same results. I have heard of some of these giving some mild sides, but I image it will depend on the product and the individual. If they want to try them, have them cut all doses into 1/2 of the recommended and start slow like EOD and then build up, if they are concerned about sides. The FDA isn't going to allow anything on the market that will come near to being like AAS.


Stay Strong~~!!!
IPL

Ok. So it would seem you are of the opinion that if a gal wants to use something, AAS is probably going to work better. So, if she wants to try Var for the first time at 2.5mg/day for 6 weeks and she weighs about 120lb's at 5'4, will she have sides like breaking out or hair growth at that dose?

[IFIWAS]

No bad sides at all at that dose...I would recommend 5mg ED still a very low dose, the results will be nothing short of amazing if she excercies at all and if her diet is even close to being good.

[IronpumpedLady]

I would say 5mg ED just as IFIWAS said, this is a great place for a woman to start if she wishes to cross over to higher grounds. She may have mild break outs, this is more less an individual thing, or she may have nothing at all. Sides are less likely at this dose. But I always like to tell any female that decides to use AAS, that no matter what once you cross that line there is going to be something, maybe very mild, but somewhere on your body you will be able to tell that you have used AAS. So think long and hard before you decide.
She can cycle var for 8-10 weeks, some like to go 12 wks, but I think 8-10 will be sufficient and she should have some very nice results from this. Just remember time on = time off. Next time if she decides to use var again, she may want to increase her dose to 10mg, if she does well on the first initial cycle. Be sure to keep a journal and keep her diet in check!!

Stay Strong~~!!!
IPL

[The Anonymizer]

natural test boosters usually work by displacing estrogen or mimicking LH or FSH....women dont produce testosterone from the gonads, but only from the adrenals so i doubt these would work. only estrogen and progesterone are triggered by LH/FSH in women so you might get the opposite effect.

[sityslicker1]

Originally Posted by The Anonymizer

natural test boosters usually work by displacing estrogen or mimicking LH or FSH...

Along these same lines, I bet some nolvadex or clomid could give a slight boost in test.

[ShadeofPink]

After watching the pbs (i think) special last night about how the east germans secretly used steroids on all the girls, and how many had cancer and perminent fertility/miscarriage and damage. I'm kinda leary about any young woman screwing around with hormones until she's had/done having kids. Maybe 8 weeks wouldn't do much, but more than that I am kind of concerned for her well being. I'm not a doctor nor do I have any back ground, but I have done alot of reading up and I would be concerned with any woman's fertility when dealing with hormonal levels.

[IronpumpedLady]

^^A very good point SOP~!! This is exactly why you should never go in blind, you need to know what you are dealing with!! A woman's hormones are nothing to mess with!!

Stay Strong~~!!!
IPL

[thebige]

I guess we should rename me thebigeslady, I'm 33 years old, have 2 children, and have been training since 13 years old. Competed in my first Natural bodybuilding competition at 15. The only time I have ever taken off working out is a couple of weeks after each child. I feel besides muscle maturity, I don't gain much anymore. I have the exciting choice of getting leaner,(then my usual, is around 13% bodyfat), or maintaining 13%. Wow thats motivational. I love doing heavy weight, that makes training fun, but injuries keep me from getting carried away with those goals. I did get my bench press up to 155, my weight is 120lbs. My legs are extremely strong but I rarely go above 175 on box squats,(12 to 15 reps), due to a back injury that I keep in check. I am a adrenaline junkie, I love the rush I get from doing heavy weight, or running sprints,(my other love)or running hills, rocky and high speed. Thats interesting that test comes from the adrenals in females, bigE is always telling me I have high test. Anyways, my point is that is if anyone has put the time and effort in naturally, I HAVE! I am always blown away when I hear about beginners using, I don't believe anyone should use till they have put clean eating into the formula consistently. Probably the hardest part!!! Nutrition can take you person to next level. I have the diet dialed in, and have for a long time.
We may sound like a couple of kids, but we are not. We live in a fairly small town, and keep things simple. There is not a bodybuilding community here.
BigE and I train 4 or 5 people each, 5days a week, lots of regular people, some athletes, seasonal speed training (Imagine that). But as far as more advanced people walking around this town to ask this type of question too, forget it, we are it. Thankful for the internet! We go to the Vegas for the Olympia yearly just to remind ourselves that we don't enjoy traffic anymore.
When I figure out how to get this picture off my phone to post it ,I will. It is of BigE our kids and Jay Cuttler. We happen to get on the elevator with him at the Orleans last year. Faceless of course. Anyways, my point is that if anyone has put the time and effort in the natural way, that would be me. Imagine guys, women don't have the right hormones to just increase muscle size or hardness when ever we feel like it. Nor have the supplements you guys do over the counter. NEED TO FREAK OUT! thebigesgirl, I mean LADY