most effective pct for me to date

[fallendown]

i have been through this alot so i have researched and tweaked pct for my research animals by observation :
starting at the end of the half life for the longest ester:
hcg at 500iu e3d for 2.5 weeks
clomid 100mg ed for 5 days then 50mg ed for 25 days
a-dex at .5mg ed to combat estrogen induction by hcg although clomid is used as well but more so for lh stimulation
dhea at 150mg 2x ed
zinc 100mg ed
5-10mg dbol in morning only - this will not be enough to inhibit hpta recovery if at this amount and in morning only
vitimin c at 3-4 g ed preworkout ....prevents cortisol which is higher during pct
iron 65mg ed to combat rbc dropping due to aas removal
yohimbe ....a little bit for drive and motivation
cialis perhaps
xanax on hand only if needed for removal of temp depression/anxiety
androgenerator does seem to help from supreme sports nutrition
insulin at 4 iu ed for 15 days on / 10-15 off
creatine 10g preworkout
glutimine 5g ed pwo
igf1lr3 at 60mcg eod in morning ....12 hours after peg mgf administered
gh at 5 iu ed 5days on 2 off ...never in evening

[gunz78]

WOW!!! all of that would cost more than the last cycle i ran!! but im sure that would work great for pct... i would imagine you would still feel like your on... my question is what happens when you come off all of that stuff?? oh and i would substitute nolvadex for the clomid... they basically do the same thing for me but with nolva i take less mg's which means less sides such as acne and very oily skin!

[fallendown]

when i get off the natty levels are ramping up already according to bloodwork so thats what happens .....exactly what is supposed to happen .....also the nolva does block estrogen but it doesnt stop it from being created in the first place like the clomid and clomid has been clinically proven to stimulate lh as well .....something the nolva does not do
you mentioned the expense....all the vitimins are just a few dollars at the local pharmacy ....the only real cost is the igf , gh.

[chadly]

Damn thats a lot of PCT, however this very interesting. I may give it a shot, how do you gains hold out from one cycle to the next? It does seem a little exp. but you can't place a vaule on proper PCT though! Thanks for the info!

[esteban_760]

Clomid will work if you don't mind the hugh depressive state which ensues due to its use.

Well that's a hell of a cost for the GH and IGH my friend.

Originally Posted by fallendown

when i get off the natty levels are ramping up already according to bloodwork so thats what happens .....exactly what is supposed to happen .....also the nolva does block estrogen but it doesnt stop it from being created in the first place like the clomid and clomid has been clinically proven to stimulate lh as well .....something the nolva does not do
you mentioned the expense....all the vitimins are just a few dollars at the local pharmacy ....the only real cost is the igf , gh.

[Elite Power]

Originally Posted by esteban_760

Clomid will work if you don't mind the hugh depressive state which ensues due to its use.

Well that's a hell of a cost for the GH and IGH my friend.

Yeah, nowadays I tend to stay away from clomid. Makes me feel like a little girl.

[bill220]

What does the cycle look like? (just curious)
How long you going to run the GH?
Toremifine works well. You could maybe run a low dose of clomid along side the Tor or drop the clomid altogether.
Maybe dump the dbol and go with Proviron?
I'd run the HCG throughout the cycle rather than in PCT but opinions vary on this.
As for the slin, I've got no experience with it.
In respect to the iron supplement, I got blood work done on my chimp after his last PCT and his iron level was extremely high.

Just suggestions/ideas. I'm not arguing with what you've got laid out already.

I had no idea that high doses of vitamin C would inhibit cortisol production. Can you elaborate or post a link? I'm interested.

[SupremeSportsEnhancements]

Glad you enjoyed the AndroGenerator my friend!

[Mr. Sinister]

Originally Posted by SupremeSportsEnhancements

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