Somethings up with RAVEN. BE careful

[fullybuilt]

I posted this here as well so all members can view since many may be in similar situations.

Ok something is wrong. To make a long story short, my friend sent funds on the 2nd and communicated with Raven that day. Ever since, no communication. He sent a few emails, no communication. Raven has been logging on to OLM but not addressing the issue. I think "someone" is behind his computer. He's a good bro and would nvr scam, I have a feeling something is wrong. So my friend decided having his wu sit there since the 2nd was probably not a good idea since he was supposed to have his goods sent to an addy of an out of town business man(thats how he gets his packs) but its been too long now and too risky. My friend told me he got a refund to day with his fake ID and all is good. Out of courtisy, he emailed raven again and told him he just couldnt have funds sitting there that long for a "special" order and explained the situation. So now Raven emailed him back with the reply of "Order/Canceled" "We will take note of this" Thats it, thats not like Raven to just write that after all this time of no communication and funds sitting for over a week. My friend is very grateful all my info and addy was fake b/c I have a bad feeling LE is sitting behind his computer. Raven, my friend says he apologizes for all this and really really hopes your safe.

[Nico Cujo]

Like I said earlier, that doesn't sound right.

[fullybuilt]

He didnt say anything. Not a "sorry ive been busy" not a "family emergency" not a "I didnt get your emails" Nothing. Just "ok I will make note of it, order cancelled" Just doesnt seem right. Not like him at all. I think this is the very beginning of LE taking over his computer. I dont know what they plan on doing if they are not picking up wu's and not sending orders and everyone has wu receipts burned. Good luck pinning anything on customers for just emails which are not even acceptable in court. Everyone still stay safe though.

[seabee6923]

See now you have me a little worried because I thought this last time there were a few questions that were a little strange, but then again lately everything is strange.

Example:
"You must note with payment information whether you were referred by
our partner .... You are asked who referred you BELOW. Please make sure
you include this information with payment information so we can keep
track."

REFERRED BY ........? or .....?:"


To me this doesn't make sense because if you sent me the list and details then you know who referred me. And no it is not referring to the board, is someone posts that up. Anyway, it may be nothing or ?

[Mr. Sinister]

Originally Posted by seabee6923

See now you have me a little worried because I thought this last time there were a few questions that were a little strange, but then again lately everything is strange.

Example:
"You must note with payment information whether you were referred by
our partner .... You are asked who referred you BELOW. Please make sure
you include this information with payment information so we can keep
track."

REFERRED BY ........? or .....?:"


To me this doesn't make sense because if you sent me the list and details then you know who referred me. And no it is not referring to the board, is someone posts that up. Anyway, it may be nothing or ?

Don't forget to send all your personal info, along with all illegal activities you may partake in.

[DGAF]

Originally Posted by fullybuilt

He didnt say anything. Not a "sorry ive been busy" not a "family emergency" not a "I didnt get your emails" Nothing. Just "ok I will make note of it, order cancelled" Just doesnt seem right. Not like him at all. I think this is the very beginning of LE taking over his computer. I dont know what they plan on doing if they are not picking up wu's and not sending orders and everyone has wu receipts burned. Good luck pinning anything on customers for just emails which are not even acceptable in court. Everyone still stay safe though.

I really dont know what to say about the situation. I dont know if anyone remembers the AP situation awhile back when LE caught him and took over his computer. Nobody knew he was busted. Packs werent coming BUT the money was being picked up and the excuse used to cover the bust was he was having family problems and packs were being delayed. LE was collecting the funds and using his computer to get more people to keep buying and eventually the bust was found out and LE just kept all the money they collected from people who ordered. Now I dont know what is going on in your buddys situation but I would think if LE had control of his computer that they would have given an excuse to keep the people buying and they would have collected the money right after it was sent. I dont know but that is what I think they would have done but they could have his computer but maybe he is just laying low himself because he feels heat. Anyway I am glad your buddy got his money back and lets hope all is ok with Raven.



DGAF

[fullybuilt]

I thought this too, but its much more difficult for LE to collect money when funds are being sent to china, even though he's a remailer. I think this just happened very recently. So recently LE hasnt planned it out enough to make a good cover.

Originally Posted by DGAF

I really dont know what to say about the situation. I dont know if anyone remembers the AP situation awhile back when LE caught him and took over his computer. Nobody knew he was busted. Packs werent coming BUT the money was being picked up and the excuse used to cover the bust was he was having family problems and packs were being delayed. LE was collecting the funds and using his computer to get more people to keep buying and eventually the bust was found out and LE just kept all the money they collected from people who ordered. Now I dont know what is going on in your buddys situation but I would think if LE had control of his computer that they would have given an excuse to keep the people buying and they would have collected the money right after it was sent. I dont know but that is what I think they would have done but they could have his computer but maybe he is just laying low himself because he feels heat. Anyway I am glad your buddy got his money back and lets hope all is ok with Raven.



DGAF

[OhHannah]

Send "Raven" a bullshit letter that sounds legit, from a new and made-up account that can't be easily traced back to you, talking about stuff you never talked about with him.

If he pretends to know you and asks for your personal info rather than saying WTF are you talking about and who the hell are you, then get worried.

[fullybuilt]

I just talked to a good bro on another board and he informed me its been 2-3weeks now and his Wu was picked up and he is getting really odd 2-3word emails back from Raven. Definately sounds like the work of LE. They are terrible at this kinda stuff, so this is a serious sign. Definately lay low. BUT the guy I talked to said raven didnt ask him for his shipping addy.

[fullybuilt]

SO now Raven just posted at outlaw. This still doesnt feel right to me. When he says he's logged on but not "this part" that worries me b/c "this part" is his private section that requires a password to get into. Someone on here has to be closer to him and know more. Here are his reply's.

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Its all good fellas! i have logged unto the board but havent logged in this part of the forum for awhile. Ive been just taking care of business & emailing,but your friend did pick his funds back up.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGTJ
Maybe he is slammed with orders

Raven's reply:
Thats exactly it my friend!