How to play the game- newbies looking for gear.

[gatechplyr]

I have been in the game for several years and when I started, no one ever told me the "rules of engagement". So-- I am going to help some of you new guys with the basics on how to play the game, the lango, and what not to do. (I will however NOT tell you where to get gear- who sells or resales or any info that will be viewed as a risk to the community. - So don't ask)

First and foremost you need to understand what your trying to accomplish. Some guys want to bulk and some guys are looking to cut weight. It is almost impossible to do this at the same time, so decide on which one you are doing and start there. By taking a little time in the "Anabolic Discussion" areas on most boards, you will find out which compounds will work best for you. In this phase- ask questions- no question is viewed as stupid or dumb if you truly don't know the answer. The majority of the bros on boards are somewhat smartass's- but also will give you the best advice because they have been there. Just be open and honest and they will help you.

Once you have gathered your info, start interacting with the members of the boards. Many times, just in bullshit conversations you will get to know your fellow brothers and them you. This builds your rep within the community and gets other members to accept you over time. This however is NOT the time to start asking for gear from guys or who they are using. Many times a low post count or "newbie" asking for this info is thought of as a cop trying to get in on our community.

Now there are 2 ways to get gear. First is "international" and the other is "domestic". International is usually being sold from a country that has very lax laws on gear and the sell of them. There is however a huge risk involved here. All international sources must have every pack they send go through our Customs here in the states. Keep in mind- gear is illegal here in the U.S. without a valid script. If customs intercepts the pack- depending on the amount they will either send you a letter saying your pack has been seized or worse a "CD". This stands for a "controlled delivery". This is where you have to accept the pack and will be arrested once you do so. International gear is usually made by "legit" companies that sell to the medical fields as well. ie: organon, BD, etc.

Domestic is a little less risky, but a majority of this gear comes from a UG lab. (Under Ground). This is someone who gets raw powder for each compound and then cooks it into the final product. Some of these guys are very- very good at what they do and are dead on in the dosages. Some could not cook cakes in a easy bake oven. You can get "legit" gear from domestic sources, but it is a good bit more costly. I actually like UG gear.

It is now up to you to find a source- I WILL NOT HELP YOU IN THIS AREA- SO DON'T ASK ME....... once you have located a good source and he checks out- you must now pay him for his goods.

Most sources are going to want you to pay before you ever get anything. This opens up a whole new area of being scammed. (you send funds, they keep it and don't send you shit in return- it happens often).. And they will want to be paid by either a WU (western union) transfer or some "cash in the mail". Some have used Greendot, but I would not suggest it. And never ever ever ever use your fucking credit card. - you are buying illegal drugs- so a transaction like this is a no-no.. whatever you do- follow your sources instructions. if you are not sure- ask before you send funds. Nothing is worse than a guy who thinks he has been scammed but did not follow instructions.

Once the funds have been sent- you should have your gear in a reasonable amount of time. make sure you ask your source- "do I have to sign for this shit?" Also- get a tracking number from your source- most use this method. if he says no (most good ones don't make you) and here is a new mailman wanting a signature. Look at the pack and say it is not yours- (it is more than likely a CD). I also always tell guys don't ship shit to you home addy- use a p.o. box. Get a large one and only check it after hours. it would help if you could open it without giving them your real i.d.

Note: if you happen to find a source- don't ask for payment details and not be 100% ready to complete the transaction. This is a huge fucking no-no... I have seen some sources have a addy on a guy that bails and will post that shit up to "get him back"- you can also be banned from boards as a "info collector"- don't waste the sources time if you are not ready. They are taking a huge risk and don't need added headaches to someone "price shopping".

The other thing to avoid is posting up "my source scammed me" without checking with the board owner or any of his mod staff. Many times the postal service mishandles a pack and it finally does find its way home. Be patient. keep communication open with your source- if he fails to respond over SEVERAL emails. then alert the boards.

Insist that if your source is domestic, that he ship everything priority. This pack cannot be opened by the postal inspector without a valid search warrant. This holds them up for several days and hopefully will shoot up a red flag- something is not right. The only time they can open with no warrant if it is leaking shit out of it. Make sure your source is a good packer- (others will tell you this when you check him out).

Last you more than likely will need refs--- these are guys willing to vouch for you. (sources and vets) if you don't have them- you have to be patient and work into them.

Keep in mind- with ORD (operation raw deal) many a good bros got busted. We got very sloppy and would sell to anyone. Since that has happened, every source is extra carefull. Where it might have taken 6-8 weeks to get a line on a good source- can take upwards of 6 months now. Dont get forceful- take some time and it will pay off for you in the end.

now go hit that gym..

[demonsweat]

Informative and useful post!

[jackedpuckster]

Great post... why dont you reccomend green dot though?

[Ronn]

Very "Sticky" worthy--excellent post.

Ronn

[IronpumpedLady]

Good post gate~!!! Wish someone would have given me this info when I was a newbie~!!!!


Stay Strong~~!!!
IPL

[BIG D]

Originally Posted by Liftharddaily

Great post... why dont you reccomend green dot though?

GD is very personal with the person adding the money into there account I think a lot of recent busts have been applied through green dot if funds are becoming suspicious green dot will refuse the account holder the money unless receits are given to them even then I'm sure its a red flag to them to go ahead and inform maybe LE about suspicious mone account a lot of people with ORD went down through green dot its great for the buyer because you don't have pay fees besides the 5 but the WU is worth being discrete for both sender and reciever..

[gatechplyr]

Originally Posted by BIG D

GD is very personal with the person adding the money into there account I think a lot of recent busts have been applied through green dot if funds are becoming suspicious green dot will refuse the account holder the money unless receits are given to them even then I'm sure its a red flag to them to go ahead and inform maybe LE about suspicious mone account a lot of people with ORD went down through green dot its great for the buyer because you don't have pay fees besides the 5 but the WU is worth being discrete for both sender and reciever..

could not have responded any better.

[Realize]

Very informative but I dont like it. I think its too much information.

I know that they know all this already but why create a blueprint ?

[gatechplyr]

Originally Posted by Realize

Very informative but I dont like it. I think its too much information.

I know that they know all this already but why create a blueprint ?

We would be kidding ourselves if we did not think LE alreadys knows all of this info. Hell they even have our own bros working for them when they get popped in hopes of a "better deal".

- all this info is already out there in numerous threads. You just have to put them all together to get the big idea of how things work. This info will help a newbie from having to do that and hopefully keep him and the community out of harms way. Once again- I did not tell them how to get gear- simply how the process works. Its like giving a guy a road map, but no means to get there..

[spook77]

this should help alot of newbies for sure thats if they read it