Gyno Problems

[chadly]

To start, I have done quite a few cycles before and never had a problem with the dreaded gyno until now. I currently take 40mgs D-bol ED,450mgs Deca EW, 500mgs Test Cyp EW. I have recently had some signs of gyno come up and I started with the nolva ED at 40mgs, a week ago,and still have'nt had any noticeable changes. How long before I start seeing the size of the gland go down? The reason I ask is, if I don't start seeing some improvement soon then I am going to switch to a another brand of Nolva. Thanks for the help in advance, if I left out any variables just let know and I'll provide proper info.
Thanks,
-C

[beeman]

If it were me, I would get some femara just in case, but I think 40mg of nolva should be more than enough to at least slow down or stop the gyno problem. The problem might be from the progesterone from the deca, and for that you would need cabaser. Have you increased the dosages a lot from your other cycles to this one. Are you getting less symptoms like itchy nips. What week of the cycle are you on.

[Elite Power]

Try Caber or Bromo. That will help. I've also heard of letro assisting with progesterone gyno. Nolva will stop the estrogen sides from test, but not the progesterone effects of Deca.

[onemuscledbeagle]

I would stick with the nova and add cabaser to go along with it. What week are you in? Also, how long between cycles and what PCT did you use to end the last?

[jdjack]

Originally Posted by onemuscledbeagle

I would stick with the nova and add cabaser to go along with it. What week are you in? Also, how long between cycles and what PCT did you use to end the last?

Adex is probably what you needed to look for. Asin would work as well but its not as strong. Bromo and caber are for progesterone-related gyno. Which shouldn't be for your list.

As far as the time, it depends on what you use to help for nolva probably like 2-4weeks. If it was adex much faster and letro would be super fast but the trade off of each is that a rebound is more likely the more potent. Hope this helps. Good luck if any more questions just pm or ask.
JD

[KingGuss]

Originally Posted by Elite Power

Try Caber or Bromo. That will help. I've also heard of letro assisting with progesterone gyno. Nolva will stop the estrogen sides from test, but not the progesterone effects of Deca.

Yes, Ive had temp relief from cabaser and letro combo. This was to combat Test/tren gyno that blew the gland behind my right nipple out of controll. I have come to the conclusion (sadly), that my 19nor days are over bc eventually if mixed with test I will have gyno flare ups. Not worth it for me.

[Blindsight]

If you've never gotten gyno before, what is it about this cycle that you are doing differently? Different drugs? Just different doses? If you've done similar cycles, maybe the nolva is bad for some reason. If the doses of all have increased, it's hard to really say what the cause is. The only drug I really have a lot of sides from is dbol, and I have to use highish doses of adex to alleviate them... nolva doesn't really do much for me.

[Elite Power]

Originally Posted by KingGuss

Yes, Ive had temp relief from cabaser and letro combo. This was to combat Test/tren gyno that blew the gland behind my right nipple out of controll. I have come to the conclusion (sadly), that my 19nor days are over bc eventually if mixed with test I will have gyno flare ups. Not worth it for me.

From personal experience, why not run Test at a TRT dose, or maybe a little more, and continue to use 19 nors? You dont need test to be higher than 19 nors to have good sexual function, so give it a shit. Just keep all Anti-e's on hand. Test is usually a big culprit to gyno. Keep the dose low, and give it a shot.

[chadly]

Originally Posted by beeman

If it were me, I would get some femara just in case, but I think 40mg of nolva should be more than enough to at least slow down or stop the gyno problem. The problem might be from the progesterone from the deca, and for that you would need cabaser. Have you increased the dosages a lot from your other cycles to this one. Are you getting less symptoms like itchy nips. What week of the cycle are you on.

Just started on week 6, and yes I am having some itchy nip syndrome. Thanks bros, this has been very informative. Looks like I am going to need a hok on the Caber!

[KingGuss]

Originally Posted by Elite Power

From personal experience, why not run Test at a TRT dose, or maybe a little more, and continue to use 19 nors? You dont need test to be higher than 19 nors to have good sexual function, so give it a shit. Just keep all Anti-e's on hand. Test is usually a big culprit to gyno. Keep the dose low, and give it a shot.

Yeah Its worth a shot during my late summer cut, and if it flares up again Ill just drop it and switch to masteron. Im sure my (domestic) AAS source situation will be corrected by then.

Ill be sure to have the letro, cabaser, and nolva handy. Ill also be praying for mercy from the tren god, hehe!