Front loading on a cycle?

[Titan]

I was curious to what dose of Prop you would use to front load this cycle.

Test E 600mg wk
EQ 600mg wk
Tren A 400mg wk

Was wondering if Test Prop at 100mg eod for first three weeks would be sufficent for a good jump start. Trying to gain mass, and cut at wks 12-20. The test and the eq will be run for 20wks,tren dropped after 6wks. I was thinking of running Clen and T3 last 4wks of cycle, or may just add Winny at 50mg ed for last 6wks. What are your ideas on this?



Titan

[Elite Power]

Originally Posted by Titan

I was curious to what dose of Prop you would use to front load this cycle.

Test E 600mg wk
EQ 600mg wk
Tren A 400mg wk

Was wondering if Test Prop at 100mg eod for first three weeks would be sufficent for a good jump start. Trying to gain mass, and cut at wks 12-20. The test and the eq will be run for 20wks,tren dropped after 6wks. I was thinking of running Clen and T3 last 4wks of cycle, or may just add Winny at 50mg ed for last 6wks. What are your ideas on this?



Titan

How many cycles have you done? And Prop at 100mg/EoD isnt frontloading, its called a kickstart. Frontloading is when you double the dose of your Anabolics for the first week so you dont have to wait for them to build up over time.

Example with your cycle:
The first week you would shoot 1200mg test e/1200mg of eq. Then every week following, down to the dose you want to use.

Now, personally I would use Dbol for the first 4 weeks, and then you could throw winny in at the end. Also, decide if this is a bulk or cut, dont try to do both. Eat clean, and put on lean mass.

[Titan]

Originally Posted by Elite Power

How many cycles have you done? And Prop at 100mg/EoD isnt frontloading, its called a kickstart. Frontloading is when you double the dose of your Anabolics for the first week so you dont have to wait for them to build up over time.

Example with your cycle:
The first week you would shoot 1200mg test e/1200mg of eq. Then every week following, down to the dose you want to use.

Now, personally I would use Dbol for the first 4 weeks, and then you could throw winny in at the end. Also, decide if this is a bulk or cut, dont try to do both. Eat clean, and put on lean mass.

My stats are
6'5
265lbs

This cycle will be for cutting, and lean mass. I'm carrying a high BF% and will be dropping it. Diet is in place, and ancillaries in hand.

This would be my 4th cycle in the last 3yrs. My mistake on the terminology as well. I meant a kickstart to let the long ester get built up. Not a big fan of Dbol becasue of the bloat. Thanks for the input.


Titan

[biga26]

Originally Posted by Elite Power

How many cycles have you done? And Prop at 100mg/EoD isnt frontloading, its called a kickstart. Frontloading is when you double the dose of your Anabolics for the first week so you dont have to wait for them to build up over time.

Example with your cycle:
The first week you would shoot 1200mg test e/1200mg of eq. Then every week following, down to the dose you want to use.

Now, personally I would use Dbol for the first 4 weeks, and then you could throw winny in at the end. Also, decide if this is a bulk or cut, dont try to do both. Eat clean, and put on lean mass.

+1...Sound advice Elite

[Flex4777]

No need to front load.

[Rebel55]

Test Prop at 100mg eod is a good dose.

[Elite Power]

Titan, if Dbol is a problem because of bloat, then Prop is ok. However, I think that Prop should be shot ED. I have a study showing how fast Test levels drop on the days that you do not shoot. If I can dig it up I will definately send it to you. I would personally shoot it everyday, or use an oral with an AI. Another possibility would be to use Tbol, considering lean mass is your goal.

[BirdChest]

Originally Posted by Titan

I was curious to what dose of Prop you would use to front load this cycle.

Test E 600mg wk
EQ 600mg wk
Tren A 400mg wk

Was wondering if Test Prop at 100mg eod for first three weeks would be sufficent for a good jump start. Trying to gain mass, and cut at wks 12-20. The test and the eq will be run for 20wks,tren dropped after 6wks. I was thinking of running Clen and T3 last 4wks of cycle, or may just add Winny at 50mg ed for last 6wks. What are your ideas on this?



Titan

I wouldn't frontload it at all, personally.

If it is going to wind up as basically a 20 week cutting cycle, I'd throw the tren and winny in at the last six weeks, instead of the tren up front. But that's just me.

Have you ever used EQ before? That's a pretty high dose, and can cause high blood pressure, which can lead to irritability and some paranoia. I'd maybe cut it back to 400 a week, and look at only around 16 weeks for it. That way, when you end the test,tren, and winny, the EQ is out of your system, allowing for an easier PCT.

[BirdChest]

Originally Posted by Titan

My stats are
6'5
265lbs

This cycle will be for cutting, and lean mass. I'm carrying a high BF% and will be dropping it. Diet is in place, and ancillaries in hand.

This would be my 4th cycle in the last 3yrs. My mistake on the terminology as well. I meant a kickstart to let the long ester get built up. Not a big fan of Dbol becasue of the bloat. Thanks for the input.


Titan

If dbol bloats you, so will the level of test floating around in your system from kickstarting or frontloading.

[Wutgunz]

I don't think you necessarily need to frontload on that cycle. I like what you had in the first thread. If you're dead set on it though, you can take 100 mg of prop ED (if you're LOADING) for 4 weeks, or if you just want the extra kick 100 eod would probably do it. If I'm taking tren a with prop, I try to shoot every day though, so loading is gonna make you a pin cushion. Again, no real need to load, but that's how I'd do it if I were you.