Winstrol 50 at the end of Test Cycle?

[littlerunt]

I'll be starting my first cycle next week -

Week 1-12 Test E at 250/E3D
Week 1-4 Dbol at 30mg day

Will be using A-dex during cycle, Nolva and test taper during PCT. Hoping to gain 10-15 solid pounds. A friend of mine SWEARS I should use 100mg/E3D Winny to harden up/gain strength during the last four weeks of my cycle.

Most people have recommended I stick to a simple test/dbol cycle initially. Would running the Winny be a mistake? Went ahead and got it, but absolutely have no problem holding on to it for another time.

Thanks guys - this site has been amazing.
LittleRunt

[BIG D]

Originally Posted by littlerunt

I'll be starting my first cycle next week -

Week 1-12 Test E at 250/E3D
Week 1-4 Dbol at 30mg day

Will be using A-dex during cycle, Nolva and test taper during PCT. Hoping to gain 10-15 solid pounds. A friend of mine SWEARS I should use 100mg/E3D Winny to harden up/gain strength during the last four weeks of my cycle.

Most people have recommended I stick to a simple test/dbol cycle initially. Would running the Winny be a mistake? Went ahead and got it, but absolutely have no problem holding on to it for another time.

Thanks guys - this site has been amazing.
LittleRunt

For your first cycle I think you should just run the test at 500mg a week to see how your body reacts..I wouldn't add the dbol in just yet...but if you do you got it pretty much right I think its just a little excessive for a first timer and winstrol should be run at 100mg EOD

[huskerfolife]

you have to remeber you cant do it all in 1 cycle. get a couple of cycles under you belt with some test and then down the road you can start adding winny at the end of the cycle or do a cutting cycle. i def think you will be happy with the results as long as your diet and workout is on point....good luck!

[finxster]

Take it from a guy who finished his first pinning cycle recently. I decided to jump mine with prop for the first 4 weeks. Pinning prop EOD got old quick. Long esters are the way to go in the beginning. You'll gain good off of the dbol/test e.

[Littleguy]

I would hold onto it till the next go-round, and see how you respond to the test by itself.

[Elite Power]

I agree with these guys, save it. The only thing that I would change (for future cycles) would be to use winni everyday, not EoD or E3D.

[BirdChest]

As stated before... do only the test e for the first cycle, at around 300 mg pw.

But, as a first cycle, relax. If you even half ass your work outs and diet, you should make a dramatically noticable difference off the test alone.

The first way can be done also. However, I'd change it up to taking 50 mg winnie per day the last 4 weeks. Remember, you CAN drink it rather than shoot it.

[BIG D]

Originally Posted by finxster

Take it from a guy who finished his first pinning cycle recently. I decided to jump mine with prop for the first 4 weeks. Pinning prop EOD got old quick. Long esters are the way to go in the beginning. You'll gain good off of the dbol/test e.

long esters are deff NOT the way to go in the beginning. you dont know why kinda of side effect youll have towards any of the compounds and it you start getting bad sides that long acting ester is going to be in your system a lot longer than a short acting one im sure everyone here can agree with me on that one..but to each is own do your thing if you want to just dive into a cycle throwing a ton of shit in you by all means do it its better off to start slow and steady its only going to work out in the long run to make you that much more bigger of course your gonna gain size from dbols and test fuck my first cycle was just plain dbols and i gained nearly 25lbs off it your going to blow up no matter what you take for your first time

[Elite Power]

Originally Posted by BIG D

long esters are deff NOT the way to go in the beginning. you dont know why kinda of side effect youll have towards any of the compounds and it you start getting bad sides that long acting ester is going to be in your system a lot longer than a short acting one im sure everyone here can agree with me on that one..but to each is own do your thing if you want to just dive into a cycle throwing a ton of shit in you by all means do it its better off to start slow and steady its only going to work out in the long run to make you that much more bigger of course your gonna gain size from dbols and test fuck my first cycle was just plain dbols and i gained nearly 25lbs off it your going to blow up no matter what you take for your first time

well I think using a long ester test is a good way to go for a newbie, as long as it used solo. I dont know too many people who get in the game and want to shoot EoD or ED right off the bat.

[Blindsight]

If I were you, I wouldn't use that many weeks of 17-aa drugs in one cycle... it would probably mean at least 8 out of 12 weeks on orals, which is too hard on the liver for a first cycle. Also, as had been mentioned, winny definitely should be taken every day, due to shorter half-life. So save it for next time, bro... maybe for a cutting cycle.

In my opinion, you'll probably be happier if you stick to your long-acting test, as planned. I feel test is really not a harsh enough drug to worry so much about sides from it, and you'll most likely get better results and have to pin less.

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but if anything, I'd probably start off with more gear, rather than less, assuming that you've been lifting for a long time and maxed out your genetic potential already... like maybe throw in some EQ or deca... but that's just me.

Anyways, at this point you should probably just stick to what you've already been planning, since hopefully you've put a significant amount of thought into it already.