Testim

[felon4life]

Anyone ever try them? i plan on going on them for about 4 months, at 50mgs per day. never used anything like that though, are the results good? i know low dose 350mgs per week wont do all that much, but it is human grade test, just in gel form.

[hulk_hogan]

i think its good to do it like that in between cycles

[felon4life]

yea thats exactly my plan, and if that test really abosrbs into the skin and works it would be great to not inject for 4 months!

[czarr]

Doc gave me a script for testim. I took it for 3 months and personally thought it sucked.
Also, everytime I thought about how much testim cost , around $250 per month (even tho insurance covered it) it just pissed me off. Shit is not worth $10 per month.

Regarding absorption, only 55% to 60% is actually absorbed into the skin plus it smells like a cheap cologne,my wife bitched the whole time I was on it...

[felon4life]

well i got a damn good deal on the 4 boxes i have, and for cruising in between cycles and not having to pin i wont bitch

[Lockk]

Brutha you know that there is no such thing as cruising and that weather you run Testim, Androgel or just inject yourself once a week with 250mg of Test-C or E for long enough that you run the risk of making yourself primary hypogonadal (nuts stop producing enough test)

Now if your already primary or secondary hypogonadal then hell cruise on otherwise maybe reconsider, just trying to look out for ya here not preaching take care.


Application Info:
Apply the Testim to your sholders, upper arms, flanks (area just below your arms going down to your hips) same goes fro Androgel. You can see this application info at allthingsmale.com

Summary of a study Testim vs Androgel:
When these two products were studied head-to-head, the Testim "produced approximately 30% higher serum testosterone levels" in a single-use study. In another study that took place over 90 days, the increase in total testosterone was similar with both drugs when the dose was 50 mg/d. When the dose was raised to 100 mg/d, however, Testim produced a 300% greater increase in total testosterone compared to AndroGel.

Actual study:
Testim 1% testosterone gel for the treatment of ma...[Clin Ther. 2005] - PubMed Result

[fulforb]

I have been on Adrogel for 3 years and saw some reports that Testim was better obsorbed but my insurance doesn't cover the entire amount like it does for Androgel so I won't be switching until that changes.

[noname]

Originally Posted by felon4life

Anyone ever try them? i plan on going on them for about 4 months, at 50mgs per day. never used anything like that though, are the results good? i know low dose 350mgs per week wont do all that much, but it is human grade test, just in gel form.

I've been on 2 tubes of Testim a day (100mg total) for a couple of years now. I have some advice for you, or at least I have some advice that's worked for me.

It is suggested that you squeeze the contents of the tube onto your hands and then rub the oil into your chest, the upper arms and shoulders.

The problem with this is that fact that the stuff dries rather quickly and you loose a fair amount on your hand, which you then wash down the drain. I circumvent this by taking a regular sandwich baggie, lay it flat on the table and then squeeze the contents of one tube onto the bag.

After getting every last possible drop out of that bitch, I slip my hand inside the baggie, like a glove, and apply it that way, so that only a minimal amount sticks to the bag (as it is a relatively frictionless surface) and none of it gets washed down the drain. I use the one tube on the left chest, upper arm, shoulder and back and I repeat the process with the second tube on the other side – using the same baggie, which is pretty much saturated at this point and doesn't waste any more gel. In fact, I try to use the same baggie for several days in a row.

I used to use Androgel, but I found that Testim is better for me for several reasons.

The most important fact is that Testim achieves maximum absorption within 1-2 hours after application and, should you need to, you can shower after a couple hours without wasting too much. Androgel suggests that you don't shower for at least five hours after application. Now it goes without saying (or at least common sense tells me so) that the longer you wait to take a shower, the more of the testosterone actually absorbs, so I try to put it on in the morning, after showering after my morning cardio, then not wash it off until after work and my second workout.

Testim does have a certain, unique, musky smell to it. This is because of the type of oil that is used as the base for the Test and this oil is the reason that it absorbs faster than the alcohol based Androgel. (Incidentally, I found that Androgel's alcohol base dried out my skin too much for my taste.) Anyway, the smell is not bad, in fact it smells like a French men's cologne that sells for about $200/ounce. It is really a matter of taste for the person wearing it. Some find it too strong and don't like it, the same for some people's wives, etc.

However, it has been my experience that women, almost across the board, really, really like the smell. The only complaints that I've ever heard are from guys -- and usually only after their girlfriends come up, hug me and tell me how nice I smell. Anyway, it's a matter of personal taste, you'll either like it or you won't - though I'd bet your wife likes it.

As ways that I've experimented with to increase the absorption of the Test -I've come up with the following suggestions. As with everything from me, take what you want and leave the rest.

1. Obviously, the longer you leave the gel on, the more Test will be absorbed.

2. It is best applied shortly after a shower, not too soon that you won't be able to get dry, but soon enough that the majority of your pores are still open, as this will help with absorption.

3. While it says only apply to the upper arms and chest, I've found that this is the area more exposed to the sun and wind and is flexed a lot more during exercise and other activities and as a result, the skin in these areas is much thicker than in other places, like the underside your arm, your arm pit (though this one stings a bit, especially after a shower), and the flank portion of your abdomen – the sides, the love handle region and the lower back area, where the skin is thin and thus the oil is more readily absorbed.

4. Also, the more surface area that you spread the oil over, the more testosterone will be absorbed, especially if you put it over the areas of the thinnest skin.

5. Sometimes, if I don't plan on getting dressed or doing much for a few hours, I'll apply one or both tubes to my thighs, especially the inner area and the back of the thigh below the ass. The skin in these areas is very thin and absorbs readily, though if you put the oil here and get dressed right away, your underwear and/or pants will stick to the oil and it will be uncomfortable as all Hell. I wouldn't suggest the thighs unless you were planning on being a complete bum all day or unless you were applying it and then going to bed.

6. Finally, the top of the feet have extremely thin skin and anything applied there is almost completely absorbed, though this has the same problem as the thighs and shouldn't be done except if you're going to be sitting around all day watching a marathon of The Shield and then going to bed.

[felon4life]

yea i apply in the morning after showering. then go to work. so how have your results been? have you seen an increase in LBM and decrease in body fat at all?

[jonny9720]

Does it irritate the skin or does it go on like lotion.