Dbol/Test cycle=sen. nips @1mg+Adex daily

[187GN]

I'm on my 2nd week of Test E (500wk) and test prop (50mg eod) and 25mg dbol.

I'm very sensitive to gyno, and I notice I get very sensitive nips unless I consume almost 2mg of adex a day, along with 20mg nolva.

If I do only about 1mg adex, the sensitivity is greatly increased and I get a tingling feeling. There is puffyness behind the nipple, but it subsides when I take the adex.

I was thinking perhaps I am just incredibly prone to gyno,and should switch to letro, or perhaps try some caber as it could be progesterone related?(maybe?)

The sensitivity goes away when I take the adex and nolva, but I do not want to take too much of each.

This is my first real cycle.

Thanks.

[BIG D]

1st cycle huh and already taking that much? I would drop the prop bro and stick to the enth at 500mg per wk and whatever your doing with the dbols...dbols give me bad gyno myself

[187GN]

Originally Posted by BIG D

1st cycle huh and already taking that much? I would drop the prop bro and stick to the enth at 500mg per wk and whatever your doing with the dbols...dbols give me bad gyno myself

It seems to be the dbols. Happens after I take them(later that night)

Although I really like the rage I get from them.

Anything you could suggest replacing the dbols with that will not aromatize?

halos ?

I'm going to give the dbols a few more days at 1.5mg adex and order some letro today. If those do not solve the problem, then I'll just try some non-aromatizing androgen...probably halos

[Ronn]

19-nortestosterone-based anabolic steroids won't aromatize into estrogen, but then prolactin might become a problem. Some have argued the DHT based androgens (Winny) won't cause gyno, but then you’re pinning yourself daily (and there are still ways gyno CAN happen). Are you absolutely sure you’re adex is dosed that the level stated on the bottle? Have you tried more than one brand or lot batch?

Ronn

[187GN]

Originally Posted by Ronn

19-nortestosterone-based anabolic steroids won't aromatize into estrogen, but then prolactin might become a problem. Some have argued the DHT based androgens (Winny) won't cause gyno, but then you’re pinning yourself daily (and there are still ways gyno CAN happen). Are you absolutely sure you’re adex is dosed that the level stated on the bottle? Have you tried more than one brand or lot batch?

Ronn

Yeah. I mean I could grab some caber. But isn't halo a test derivative.

Winny-eh, not really looking for that affect. Looking more for strength gains.

I'm pretty positive it is dosed right. I've ordered from this place many times previously.

I am going to place another order from that site, plus another, and compare the two.

You think I should keep taking the nolva, or just stick with the adex?

And suggestions on a good non-aromatizing androgen besides halo?

[187GN]

UPDATE:

Ordered letro from original source, order some adex from alternate source.

2nd source is more trusted (more expensive too) but hopefully will clear this up.

[BIG D]

Everybody reacts differently to different things but like I said itching swelling all that you have stated happens when I take dbol I usually use about 50 to 60mgs a day of it when I do but after I switched over to anadrol haven't really had any problem since and that sure will give strength...as for halo I think its much over rated on the strength gains and aggression myself

[beeman]

I am not really sure why you want caber, as that is only going to help with progesterone and the nottestosterone based drugs like deca and tren. I think you made a good move going with letro, since you are very sensitive to gyno. Are you going to drop the test prop once the test enanthate kicks in around week 4 or so. Next time you may want to try another oral like anavar or turinabol. They will less estrogen conversion but should give good gains.

[187GN]

Originally Posted by beeman

I am not really sure why you want caber, as that is only going to help with progesterone and the nottestosterone based drugs like deca and tren. I think you made a good move going with letro, since you are very sensitive to gyno. Are you going to drop the test prop once the test enanthate kicks in around week 4 or so. Next time you may want to try another oral like anavar or turinabol. They will less estrogen conversion but should give good gains.

thanks.

I opted to not take anavar, and just do test for a good 5-10 more weeks

[blackwaterpain]

Originally Posted by 187GN

It seems to be the dbols. Happens after I take them(later that night)

Although I really like the rage I get from them.

Anything you could suggest replacing the dbols with that will not aromatize?

halos ?

I'm going to give the dbols a few more days at 1.5mg adex and order some letro today. If those do not solve the problem, then I'll just try some non-aromatizing androgen...probably halos

hmmmmm