guys i need help!

[adamds523]

ok im 23 years old. messedd around with dbols, winstrol tabs, and winny injects, deca , and sustanon. i just finished a 50mg a day winny tab/ clen/ t4 cycle. and getting ready for the summer

im planning my new cycle for early spring. and it was going to be 500mgs a week of test enthanate 40 mgs of dbol a day and i was going to use trenbolene enthanate. ,,,now everything is fine. but the past few days ive been getting really nervous about using tren. some of the side effects ive been reading are kinda freaking me out. the sweats. horrible dreams ,etc. i was thinking about swapping the tren and adding deca at 400mgs a week. but i reallly want to experience tren and see the power of strenght it supposevily will increase.

my best friend who has alot more experience than i do. is going to be running the same cycle as me. and has previsouly used tren without any side effects.

i was hoping you guys can maybe tell me if i should just suck it up and do it or swap it with something else.

im looking for a leaner body. but get alot of strenght out of this cycle

thanks

[diesel7]

i got nite sweats when i took it but thats about it and there not even that bad. I say just go for it if the side become to much just come off it

[BIG D]

Shoulda used clen t3 winny for after cycle to lean up more makes no sense to do it before but anyways for that so called summer look I don't no if it will look to hot all bloated out from dbols on the beach I'd stick to prop and tren ace that way if tren sides are bad for you you can stop and have them go away a lot quicker than enth I'd say maybe do this cycle is somewhat similiar but will help for your look I think
Tbol, prop and tren
Tbol for wks 1-4
Prop and tren throughout cycles at 100mg eod then pct I think you'll like this stack

[adamds523]

so u like tbol over dbol?
is there still a noticable strength increase ?

[BIG D]

Originally Posted by adamds523

so u like tbol over dbol?
is there still a noticable strength increase ?

To tell you the truth bro I never used tbol. But I am deff going to include it in my next cycle and try it. Maybe take a look @ anons profile write up of it and see what you think. But I mean if your trying to lean out dbol isn't the thing really to be taking its going to make you hold a lot of water

[WaRRior45]

personally i hate dbol...i hate being bloated, I have enough trouble keeping my diet straight to worry about bloat from long acting test esters and/or dbol.

Test prop and Tren A are the ultimate to me especially if you are planning to get ready for summer, as am I.

I haven't used tbol so i can't comment on that, but the sides look better than dbol to me, and for the strength you'll gain off your first tren cycle, I really don't think you'll have anything to worry about.

[adamds523]

yeah dbols do make my face roundd from bloating but the strength increase was worth it.. so are you saying tren ace would be a better pick than tren ethanate and to use prop instead of enthanate...im not a fan of everyday shots. but no pain no gain haha

[ORBIS]

I also do get "moon face" from dbols. I don't use them anymore , people ask to many questions when i look that bloated.

[baddog]

Bro., at your age I wouldn't mess with Tren. It will definitely increase your strength but is hard on the body. I would use the deca instead until you have several cycles under your belt. If you do decide to use it make sure you get plenty of water it is very harsh on the kidneys.

[WaRRior45]

It def is hard on the body and a more advanced gear. I have also not had better strength gains than when using tren. Tren is very strong. Thats why its my favorite. You'll have to weigh the pros and cons and go with which one you feel safer with. Its all a risk.

I prefer the short esters because if you notice sides you can stop them quickly as opposed to something with a longer acting ester like test e or deca. Like you said you are getting ready for summer, and Round Face is not hot, so I wouldn't go with dbol.

at 23, you could run test e and deca and have great gains and very little bloat with the right aromatase inhibitor. If you haven't ran deca in a cycle yet it will obviously be worth running. Then you could wait and run the tren on your next one when you have more experience and more knowledge of what different gears do to your body.