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Old 03-04-2008, 11:42 PM
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after reading day after day about new scammers this came across my mind..maybe like how we have ug source testers we should have an elite few of an army go to each scammers house and pay them a visit haha..who wants to be a part of the crew haha
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:42 AM
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after reading day after day about new scammers this came across my mind..maybe like how we have ug source testers we should have an elite few of an army go to each scammers house and pay them a visit haha..who wants to be a part of the crew haha
It's not worth it bro, these fuckers are worthless pieces of shit and will never amount to a pinch of shit anyways, they are better off left alone to self destruct. It would be nice to knock some heads though, ELITE-LABS and JUST-FINA got a few good bros a while back, fucking bitches! The thing is I have the fuckers apt number and know where he lives and in a month I will be about a hundred mile from where he is located. Trust me, its crossed my mind but he has probably been evicted already, fucking losers!

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Old 03-06-2008, 03:55 AM
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If any houses were visited, I could think of worse people than scammers: Child molesters being one of them. Would I do it? Nope, I love my freedom too much. I've heard this thrown around over the years on the boards...It does suck being taken for a ride, but it's just part of the game unfortunately.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:58 AM
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You shoulda rang his doorbell and fucked with him a little
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I don't no if you guys are thinking I'm serious about this thread it was more hypothetically speaking you guys saying its a bad idea...its just pretty shitty needless to say how grimey people are but hopefully with the new requirments of the board things will change around
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:54 PM
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Yeah lets create a scammer mafia
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To me this is far worse than talking about the Classifieds. From a strictly legal standpoint, it smacks of premeditation.

Seriously, if you're thinking about doing something along these lines, I suggest that you take in underground or, at the very least, through back channels. And the sooner the better.

But, in the end, it really isn't worth it. Even beating the shit out of the guy with just your fists is enough to draw a felonious assault charge. If you decide to use a bat and break some of his ribs or you use an electric drill and permanently take out his kneecaps (always a nice way to send a message - the gift that keeps on gimping), then you've gone anywhere from assault with deadly weapon to attempted murder (depending on how much emotion you put into it).

Should you get really carried away, then that's straight up murder. That's where the whole premeditated thing about talking about it on-line will come back and bite you in the ass. (If you decide to do anything along any of these lines, make sure that you set fire to the entire scene - thermite the car, burn down the house, etc. - those CSI bastards really are that good. Not as quick as on TV, but good nonetheless. Make sure that there are no hairs, prints, fibers or blood to link you to the scene. The cleanest way to do this is to just burn everything.)

And then, even if you get out of it with only the assault charge, then LE is going to find out why you beat his ass. Then they are going to go rifle through your house looking for any and all paraphernalia or gear. Not only do you get charged and, likely, do time - you end up on LE's radar screen and it totally fucks up your own life. At the very least, they'll be watching you more closely, waiting for a time when they know you've got a bunch of gear on-hand so they can make one of their famous media outbursts - "Massive Steroid Bust in Tulsa, Oklahoma (on the campus of Orel Roberts University)!"

And, just that easily, do random musings on the Internet become the total and complete collapse of your life. And for what? For taking revenge on someone whose scamming probably didn't directly affect you (assuming that you're not the one that got scammed, merely a member of the brute squad that takes these guys down)? So, what you are doing is you are puting your entire life on the line for someone else's loss and a principle. Now I'm all for principles, but you got to chose the battles that you fight and those other things that are completely lose/lose, you have to leave those for nature/karma/someone with nothing to lose to take care of.

The best thing that can be done in these situations is to post the information as quickly as possible so that Anon, the moderators and/or the vets (IIW and Wu spring to mind) review the data and get the message out to other members and other boards that this person is now a scammer. These things flow like fire through our community and, if handled properly, the scammer would soon be outed throughout the net and effectively ostracized from our little family here and banned from not ony this board but, hopefully, banned at as many other boards whose owners can't bought.

Wow, this thing got long. I'm just a wordy fucker today, ain't I?

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Perhaps we should rank order the predators that include scammers and start from there and consider the pros and cons. Perhaps a SWOT analysis:
Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Treats. After completion we can set the strategy for removal.
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To me this is far worse than talking about the Classifieds. From a strictly legal standpoint, it smacks of premeditation.

Seriously, if you're thinking about doing something along these lines, I suggest that you take in underground or, at the very least, through back channels. And the sooner the better.

But, in the end, it really isn't worth it. Even beating the shit out of the guy with just your fists is enough to draw a felonious assault charge. If you decide to use a bat and break some of his ribs or you use an electric drill and permanently take out his kneecaps (always a nice way to send a message - the gift that keeps on gimping), then you've gone anywhere from assault with deadly weapon to attempted murder (depending on how much emotion you put into it).

Should you get really carried away, then that's straight up murder. That's where the whole premeditated thing about talking about it on-line will come back and bite you in the ass. (If you decide to do anything along any of these lines, make sure that you set fire to the entire scene - thermite the car, burn down the house, etc. - those CSI bastards really are that good. Not as quick as on TV, but good nonetheless. Make sure that there are no hairs, prints, fibers or blood to link you to the scene. The cleanest way to do this is to just burn everything.)

And then, even if you get out of it with only the assault charge, then LE is going to find out why you beat his ass. Then they are going to go rifle through your house looking for any and all paraphernalia or gear. Not only do you get charged and, likely, do time - you end up on LE's radar screen and it totally fucks up your own life. At the very least, they'll be watching you more closely, waiting for a time when they know you've got a bunch of gear on-hand so they can make one of their famous media outbursts - "Massive Steroid Bust in Tulsa, Oklahoma (on the campus of Orel Roberts University)!"

And, just that easily, do random musings on the Internet become the total and complete collapse of your life. And for what? For taking revenge on someone whose scamming probably didn't directly affect you (assuming that you're not the one that got scammed, merely a member of the brute squad that takes these guys down)? So, what you are doing is you are puting your entire life on the line for someone else's loss and a principle. Now I'm all for principles, but you got to chose the battles that you fight and those other things that are completely lose/lose, you have to leave those for nature/karma/someone with nothing to lose to take care of.

The best thing that can be done in these situations is to post the information as quickly as possible so that Anon, the moderators and/or the vets (IIW and Wu spring to mind) review the data and get the message out to other members and other boards that this person is now a scammer. These things flow like fire through our community and, if handled properly, the scammer would soon be outed throughout the net and effectively ostracized from our little family here and banned from not ony this board but, hopefully, banned at as many other boards whose owners can't bought.

Wow, this thing got long. I'm just a wordy fucker today, ain't I?
Just curious if you do professional work or if this is just a weekend warrior/hobby type of thing for you. I'm just f*#$ing with you, but an electric drill to the knee...ouch!
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It's not worth it bro, these fuckers are worthless pieces of shit and will never amount to a pinch of shit anyways, they are better off left alone to self destruct. It would be nice to knock some heads though, ELITE-LABS and JUST-FINA got a few good bros a while back, fucking bitches! The thing is I have the fuckers apt number and know where he lives and in a month I will be about a hundred mile from where he is located. Trust me, its crossed my mind but he has probably been evicted already, fucking losers!

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jf is scamming??? thats a fucking shame. he used to be a good guy (at least he was in late 2003). always shorted his 20ml a few ml, but other than that he was gtg. i emailed him last month and everything with him seemed on the up and up. i guess the up and up was the amount of money piling in his wallet from scamming.
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