Think about this next time you call someone a homo

[OhHannah]

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A 15 year old kid shot another kid to death for asking to be his valentine. WTF is wrong with our society that a boy has to feel so obsessively threatened over the sexual orientation of another boy that he destroys both their lives? WTF is wrong with saying "no thanks I am not gay" and moving on with your life like a normal sane person, instead of getting freakishly, violently obsessed with the sex lives of other people?

Normal people who are confident and secure about their own sexuality don't particularly give a shit who some other dude sleeps with. Only sick, crazy people are so concerned with other people's sexuality that they have to respond violently to the mere suggestion of gayness. Who are they really lashing out against when the response is that extreme and that personal?

There is something deeply wrong with a society that constantly sends messages that it's okay to feel hatred and contempt of other people because of their sexual orientation. The end result is that one boy is dead and another boy's life is ruined. Think hard about what happened here and about the message you're sending the next time you call somebody a faggot or a homo.

[YoungNJacked]

hannah u do realize u are talking to a huge majority of athletes and jocks here right? i think illl say my piece about this...........if a gay dude wants to stand out in a damn crowd acting as "Gay" as possible when in reality i dont see the need for gays to act different. they make themselves stand out for a reason and then they wonder why they have these issues. what do u think about bodybuilders? the ones who wear tank tops all the time in the dead of winter, then wonder why they are harrassed. shit simple........cover up and shut ur trap up about how u workout and eat healthy to people who honestly dont give a fuck. its the same way with gays and lesbos, we wouldnt treat them different if they didnt have to be boistrous about it 24/7.

[OhHannah]

Oh, I know exactly who I'm talking to - the people who really need to stop and think about this shit the hardest.

I don't care how another person dresses, or whether they conform to some arbitrary societal norm for their gender. It does not affect me personally if my classmate or co-worker wears pants or a skirt, no matter what their gender is. I just don't give a shit and it's not my business. If they want to express themselves, good for them, I'm going to pretty much ignore it if it's not directly affecting me and it's none of my business. Nobody has the right to make choices about another person's dress and behavior that don't directly affect anyone but themselves. If you don't like something you see, be an adult and fucking ignore it, the whole world is full of shit you may not like or agree with.

[fit4lyfe]

Ribb, Gay Mob????
Hannah, while I understand you are trying to make a point, yeah you are talking to a bunch of A-type, alpha-males that have no sympathy for these people that push thier ways into anyones face, I love women, you don't see me making a point to make out in public to prove that I am straight. I do disagree that what happened is a cowardly act and it is a shame that this is what our youth has resulted to. When I was that age we resovled conflict with our fists, we went man on man, pullin a gun is not all the hype that the rap, gangster life has glamorized it to be, and these kids have no touch with reality, other than the e-net, and video games. they have lost their sense of identity, other than what they perceive they want to be.. This was a sad case of pushing the wrong kid at the wrong time too far, it is becoming too common. So I see your point, but it goes way beyond, sexual orientation, or hateful name calling, it goes into the lack of depth our youth possess for character..

[OhHannah]

Originally Posted by ribbler

whats wrong is the gay mob..telling schools and children about sex orientation

I don't think that people should be punished or hated for being born with a certain color skin, or with a disability, or with a sexual orientation that about 10% of the population is born with. Gay isn't a choice; it's neurobiological wiring. I want our kids taught that it's wrong to hate or bully people who are different from you. As far as I can tell, since I am not gay myself, gay people want the same thing. I am straight, but I truly do not care who my classmates or co-workers sleep with as long as they are consenting adults. If I get a proposition I don't want to accept, I say "no thank you, I don't bat for that team" and get on with my life like a normal sane adult.

as a kid you shouldnt be thinking about shiz like this anyway..

I guarantee that kids definitely are thinking about sex and sexual orientation, and no amount of trying by their parents is going to override their normal adolescent biology. We can deal with it realistically or we can hide our heads in the sand and try to deny reality.

the kid was a azz hole..he knew what he was doing ..and pushed his homo self on to a normal boys space..that homo embaressed the other boy..

I think it was more than embarrassment, I think it was an extreme pathological lashing out in rage and fear that has now completely destroyed the "normal" boy's life as well as killing another child. Can you honestly say that a 15 year old murderer is "normal"? Is that really what you want for your children, to be murderers who will spend the rest of their lives in jail?

ellen is a bitch you met her...yea i didnt think so..she a militant witch..a man hater pro homo bitch...ribb

There's a saying about walking a mile in your neighbor's moccasins, and it's relevant here. Some people do indeed become angry, bitter and hating, and it's not a really healthy way to live. There were a lot of very angry, bitter, hating black people in the era of slavery and discrimination. Given how horribly they were treated by their fellow humans, it's not too surprising. I think that everyone is responsible for their behavior and their choices even if they have every reason to be furious at society. Hating people rarely accomplishes anything good. But a certain amount of anger and militance is absolutely required to make any positive changes, no matter what people think of you for it.

[YoungNJacked]

well ill say that im with fit, im a alpha male type and i really dont put up with bullshit just in general. i dont give a fuck if the person is green or likes to fuck apple pies, if they want to ACT OUT then i have an issue. i think being gay is just a birth defect like retardation and i look at them the same way. they have to talk a certain way and be a certain way so people know they are gay. they are almost as irritating as the retarded kid in target throwing hissy fit for his video game at 18 years old. the problem is these fuckin parents who make these kids feel special for being a fuckup. i used to date a chick with a retarded kid and she babied the shit out of him and he never got better or improved his behavior. still throws fits and whatnot. thats the same way i look at gays. their parents dont give a shit to make them realize they will get picked on and that they need to improve their behavior if they want society to allow them into mainstream. look at the boy bands and athletes who are gay. they keep that shit on the downlow because they know how people react. that fag at the school who went out of his way to humiliate a teenager who probably harrassed him. well, sorry to say it but society is a place where the strong survive. so in this case it was dog eat dog

[YoungNJacked]

Originally Posted by OhHannah

I don't think that people should be punished or hated for being born with a certain color skin, or with a disability, or with a sexual orientation that about 10% of the population is born with. Gay isn't a choice; it's neurobiological wiring. I want our kids taught that it's wrong to hate or bully people who are different from you. As far as I can tell, since I am not gay myself, gay people want the same thing. I am straight, but I truly do not care who my classmates or co-workers sleep with as long as they are consenting adults. If I get a proposition I don't want to accept, I say "no thank you, I don't bat for that team" and get on with my life like a normal sane adult.




I guarantee that kids definitely are thinking about sex and sexual orientation, and no amount of trying by their parents is going to override their normal adolescent biology. We can deal with it realistically or we can hide our heads in the sand and try to deny reality.




I think it was more than embarrassment, I think it was an extreme pathological lashing out in rage and fear that has now completely destroyed the "normal" boy's life as well as killing another child. Can you honestly say that a 15 year old murderer is "normal"? Is that really what you want for your children, to be murderers who will spend the rest of their lives in jail?




There's a saying about walking a mile in your neighbor's moccasins, and it's relevant here. Some people do indeed become angry, bitter and hating, and it's not a really healthy way to live. There were a lot of very angry, bitter, hating black people in the era of slavery and discrimination. Given how horribly they were treated by their fellow humans, it's not too surprising. I think that everyone is responsible for their behavior and their choices even if they have every reason to be furious at society. Hating people rarely accomplishes anything good. But a certain amount of anger and militance is absolutely required to make any positive changes, no matter what people think of you for it.

hannah, im hoping u have children when u make these statements. having been engaged with a girl with a 8 year old and im 24, i can have a stance on this because ive been in the situation. i will say first hand, its the parents fault 100% if their kid gets shot at school. they should have told their kid that they love him regardless of having a birth defect. that other kids will tease him and try to make his life hell but that he has to ignore them and show them he isnt so different. my girls son was mentally retarded, and a really shitty little kid when i met her. however over the course of our relationship the kids bad habits died down as i put my foot down and checked the little fucker. i wouldnt let him throw fits in public and get his way. i would let him stay up with me and watch tv even on school nights if he promised he would have a good day the following day at school. its all about making ur kids feel loved. these gay kids come from fucked up families where the parents are complete square bears and have no idea whats going on. they dont ask questions or talk with their kids like friends sometimes. i will tell u hannah, as a young guy myself, and having been a parent for a duration of time, i will tell u it aint easy. but thats the risk kids these days face when they dont jimmy up. u gotta make good of the consequences and be good parents. most parents allow MTV and cartoons babysit their kids and thats why we have all these fucked up sons of bitches running around. all these crack babies with no love at home. all these kids with birth defects because their parents were careless and did drugs when they were knocked up. before anyone starts spouting off about fags, retards or whatever, u better be able to speak from experience rather than speaking from 3rd person............

[YoungNJacked]

Originally Posted by ribbler

umm i dont know if you know ..but those here do..i used to work for the biggest homo of them all..boy goerge..his bodyguard..and ran several clubs..that were alternative..so i have the goods to know what im talking about....you herd of compass..yea it feild trips for underage 15 to 16 year olds to gay clubs..heres how you act when your gay fellas..it made me sick because i had to let them in the club ..no drinking ..who cares..kids are getting preyed on by these older men..kids under age..getting fucked in there azz by older men..thats your teach tolerance..i have to be tolerant of that..and gay you say..some are born that way...some are just perverts..and choose to be gay..they were with women for there whole life..found it easer to get laid an sucked off by men...ohh there are the hurt ones im never dating a women again...and the bis..ill fuck anything...listen defend i did it for a living...i have a nine in my skull from protecting a gay man...so...as for the gay kid..hed be alive today if hed keep to his own kind and self..ribb

fuckin amen brother!!! talk from experience is my saying. i have walked the walk and talked the talk. all the shit i give advice or preach about is what i have experienced firsthand with someone close. i hate these liberal fucks in california who makes society think its ok to be a fuck up. thats its ok to feel sorry for these people. and i like how the libs say its an inbalance when really they are saying " his brain was fucked up". why dont we see retards hosting shows on NBC? thats fair i think, if we have ellen on her own show right? we have rosie ugly fuckin lesbo on the view? however i dont mind looking at the lesbs on that workout show, lol! all in all, if ur a fuck up, u will know it and realize ur gunna be treated different.

[YoungNJacked]

Originally Posted by ribbler

hey ynj i like how you said you checked the little fucker..lmfao...lol..ribb

damn striaght, i dont want a kid under my watch to be a side show act everytime we go out. same goes to the fags who talk like they are richard simmons and the lesbos who try to act like dudes. there is a reason we have men and women, its to make babies and produce. u dont make babies with 2 girls or 2 guys. so why are u on this earth if u arent gunna procreate? what are u doing here? seriously? if ur gunna be different from others, do it on ur own time. but if u wanna be a fuckin homo, a annoying retard, a ghetto fuck, or a weirdo in general, u will deal with the consequences. in europe people are openly critical of fags, jews, blacks, retards, etc. over here people are fuckin pussies and wont check a fucker if they are acting up. reason why we have molesters and pedifiles, rapists, and sex changes. people are affraid of speaking up and making a stand here in the states. everyone is so affraid of civil rights that society has crumbled and has be on the brink of going back to europe when i graduate from business school. fucked up people here, and no one will stand up for the bulk of society................BTW...........in europe if u are caught doing something illegal such as child molestation or rape.........u will be killed...........nothing else..........those fucks dont deserve to live

[Quazi]

Originally Posted by fit4lyfe

Ribb, Gay Mob????
When I was that age we resovled conflict with our fists, we went man on man, pullin a gun is not all the hype that the rap, gangster life has glamorized it to be, and these kids have no touch with reality, other than the e-net, and video games. they have lost their sense of identity, other than what they perceive they want to be.. This was a sad case of pushing the wrong kid at the wrong time too far, it is becoming too common. So I see your point, but it goes way beyond, sexual orientation, or hateful name calling, it goes into the lack of depth our youth possess for character..

Exactly fit. Shit went too far..... kid should've just got his ass kicked.