Little help from you crafty Vets!

[TigerPaw]

In the past i've ran a few novice cycles of just sust 250 and deca and a little dbol. I would only run the cycle for about 6 weeks. Well, without going into all the details of my past cycles, i just wanted to know how some of you vets would run a cycle of sust 250 and deca along with some dbol. I also have all the PCT stuff on hand also, clomid, tamoxifen(?)think that's how you spell it! HA. Some stat's on me if needed, i'm 6'5"- 265lbs @ 15% BF. I would like to do the cycle between 6-8wks. Thanks bro's for any help! If you need any other info just let me know!

[BIG D]

Well I'm not a vet but I would say start all at same time run dbol to kickstart the sust and dec for about 4 weeks then the inj will start to kick in for a novice I would say use about 500mg sust per week maybe about 300 to 400mg of the deca would be good as well.

[merckon]

Anavar would go with those compunds very nicely!I have ran sust and decca many times always more test than decca!If I were doing the cycle you are talking about me personally would run the dbol at the back end of the cycle.Thats just me. 8 weeks is good but 12 would be better!

[BIG D]

Why would you run an oral like dbol at the end of this cycle? Wouldn't you want want something to kick in fast while the oil based injectables are absorbing into your body frontloading them will bump you up for the first couple weeks by the time your done with dbols then the deca will be kicking in personally I think anavar is a waste of money for a cycle like that..

[BIG D]

Why would you run an oral like dbol at the end of this cycle? Wouldn't you want want something to kick in fast while the oil based injectables are absorbing into your body frontloading them will bump you up for the first couple weeks by the time your done with dbols then the deca will be kicking in personally I think anavar is a waste of money for a cycle like that unless you want to use it to maybe end cycle

[merckon]

if he is using sust no need to frontload in my oppinon,all dbol is a a way to retain water!personally I keep a lot more of my gains from anavar tha from dbol.

[YoungNJacked]

well said ribb.......i would say from my experience, the prop thats in the sustanon will kick in the first week or so. the dbol would be good for a kickstart at a low dose and ramping up so u dont get too bad sides. i would say to double dosage of sustanon to 2 cc's a week as well as deca. the deca will kick in about 5-6 weeks and the test are all the esters so they are time released. u should feel a punch every 2 weeks as they enter ur system. i would say run the dbol again after ur last injections of both compounds and until the deca clears 6 weeks after. so essentially u would run the dbol preferrably lower dosed just for water retention to hold on to size. i would say run it 25-30mg a day for 12 weeks. i took advice from my boy Anon about the low dosing, i personally love it. for the injects i like it moderate. around 1g a week total of gear. ive gone as high as 3g a week to as low as 250mg a week. my fav is around the middle dosage. not too many sides at 1g a week, but the gains arent as fast as 2-3gs. its all about safety and using the right amount without going overboard. ur a big boy like me and personally all i use it for now is to tighten up at 300lbs

[inheritmylife]

Originally Posted by TigerPaw

In the past i've ran a few novice cycles of just sust 250 and deca and a little dbol. I would only run the cycle for about 6 weeks. Well, without going into all the details of my past cycles, i just wanted to know how some of you vets would run a cycle of sust 250 and deca along with some dbol. I also have all the PCT stuff on hand also, clomid, tamoxifen(?)think that's how you spell it! HA. Some stat's on me if needed, i'm 6'5"- 265lbs @ 15% BF. I would like to do the cycle between 6-8wks. Thanks bro's for any help! If you need any other info just let me know!

Has whatever you were doing stopped working?

[demonsweat]

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

Has whatever you were doing stopped working?

Damn good question.

Vague details regarding past cycles but I'll take a leap and imagine you have run 2 or 3 of them. With that being said, this is my humble suggestion:

Sust - 750mg/wk (shots on Mon/Wed/Fri)
Deca - 400-600mg/wk
Dbol - 25-50mg/day for 1st 4 weeks.
Nolva - 20mg EOD or as needed depending on water retention and nipple sensitivity.

Train, eat and sleep like it is your job.

[BirdChest]

Originally Posted by demonsweat

Damn good question.

Vague details regarding past cycles but I'll take a leap and imagine you have run 2 or 3 of them. With that being said, this is my humble suggestion:

Sust - 750mg/wk (shots on Mon/Wed/Fri)
Deca - 400-600mg/wk
Dbol - 25-50mg/day for 1st 4 weeks.
Nolva - 20mg EOD or as needed depending on water retention and nipple sensitivity.

Train, eat and sleep like it is your job.

Mostly agree. but I'd keep the sust at 500 a week,shots on Mon and Thursday, unless you're a serious trainer. Stretch the test to 12 weeks,you can run the Deca either 8 or 12 weeks, run the dbol first 4 weeks and last 4 weeks. Eat, sleep, and ENJOY!

Just my opinion. Take it, leave it, or bash it.