HCG: During cycle or Post cycle?

[esteban_760]

Mornin,

So this is kind of an Anabolics question and kind of a PCT question. I'll post it in here and feel free to move this to the PCT forum if deemed necessary.

I've read conflicting information on HCG uses. Some say use it during the cycle to make sure your testes aren't shriveled up the entire cycle which makes natural Test production easier after the cycles completion. Others say it desensitizes the testes if you use during your cycle and opt for use at higher doses during post-cycle.

Has anyone tried doing it both ways and found one way to be better than the other way? Does anyone have any articles comparing both of these methods and a conclusion statemnt?

Thanks ahead of time!

[Littleguy]

I run it 250iu's 2 x per week during and 500iu's for 10 days after, that is what works best for me.

[DGAF]

I run it during all my cycles, big or small. I do 500iu`s every 5 days. It has worked great for me like this for years. I never run it for PCT.


DGAF

[tony1leg]

i use it for both
3 x week during the cycle
quick break
PCT ED along with nolvadex, aromeasin

[atomicpump]

You want to use it during cycle like DGAF does..... 500 IU per week, preferrably split into 2 250 IU shots. HCG supresses your natural test which is what you are desperately trying to bring back during PCT. You're not doing yourself any favors running it after the cycle when your testes are shrunken and unresponsive to LH in general and on top of that you're continuing to suppress your natural test which is what you want to restore during PCT.

The idea is continue having your testes work artificially while on cycle, then keep them going after the cycle with PCT.

[DGAF]

Originally Posted by atomicpump

You want to use it during cycle like DGAF does..... 500 IU per week, preferrably split into 2 250 IU shots. HCG supresses your natural test which is what you are desperately trying to bring back during PCT. You're not doing yourself any favors running it after the cycle when your testes are shrunken and unresponsive to LH in general and on top of that you're continuing to suppress your natural test which is what you want to restore during PCT.

The idea is continue having your testes work artificially while on cycle, then keep them going after the cycle with PCT.

Exactly true!


DGAF

[Blindsight]

There's a lot of controversy about best usage of hCG... my guess is that it's different for different people, so I'd experiment and find out what works best for you.

HCG doesn't do shit for me (at least that I notice) when I use it throughout the cycle, no matter what dosing schedule I've used, which is a lot of different ones. I've found it works best for me when I use about 500 iu/day for 10 days, just prior to starting PCT.

So if I think it will take 3 weeks after the last AAS injection of my cycle for my test levels to drop back down below normal physiologic levels, I'd start HCG 11 days after my last injection, and then start clomid/nolva after that.

Anyways, there are definitely people who disagree with me... SWALE is the only one I know who's done some clinical research on it, and he came to the conclusion you should run it throughout, so whatever works for you, bro.

[sityslicker1]

Blindsight thanks for mentioning Swale's pct. It WORKS! I do what atomicbomb does. I pin 250iu 2x a week and it works very well.

[Backlum Chaam]

Originally Posted by Blindsight

There's a lot of controversy about best usage of hCG... my guess is that it's different for different people, so I'd experiment and find out what works best for you.

HCG doesn't do shit for me (at least that I notice) when I use it throughout the cycle, no matter what dosing schedule I've used, which is a lot of different ones. I've found it works best for me when I use about 500 iu/day for 10 days, just prior to starting PCT.

So if I think it will take 3 weeks after the last AAS injection of my cycle for my test levels to drop back down below normal physiologic levels, I'd start HCG 11 days after my last injection, and then start clomid/nolva after that.

Anyways, there are definitely people who disagree with me... SWALE is the only one I know who's done some clinical research on it, and he came to the conclusion you should run it throughout, so whatever works for you, bro.

Yeah man, if it works do it. I see no need to take stuff that doesn't help. I found from the beginning that taking it throughout actually helps my mood. I wondered if I was just imagining things until I read others saying the same thing. Now I feel like I need it. Too bad too. Just that much more money to spend.

[esteban_760]

I thought that the reason why one would use it during PCT is to jumpstart the testes and the reason why not to use it during the actual cycle was because you would desensitize the testes to properly producing natural test. No?

Originally Posted by atomicpump

You want to use it during cycle like DGAF does..... 500 IU per week, preferrably split into 2 250 IU shots. HCG supresses your natural test which is what you are desperately trying to bring back during PCT. You're not doing yourself any favors running it after the cycle when your testes are shrunken and unresponsive to LH in general and on top of that you're continuing to suppress your natural test which is what you want to restore during PCT.

The idea is continue having your testes work artificially while on cycle, then keep them going after the cycle with PCT.