HCG 1st timer

[chadly]

Hey Bro's, I am considering using HCG for my post cycle. I have done some* research, but I am still unclear on recommended dosage. What I have is a 5000iu and 2ml of water. I know how to use it, just not how much to use. The source said to use .10 cc daily for 30-60 days, but there is a huge diffrence between 30 and 60! Anyways thanks in advance for all suggestions.

[sidius]

I'm a first timer too for hcg, but i was talking to ronin and he gave me a few pointers.

500iu weekly.4 weeks into your cycle, start hcg, then 4 weeks off, and 4 weeks on, then 4 weeks off throughout the cycle. by alternating every 4 weeks, you keep your testes sensitive to hcg and keep them from atrophying and making it easier to recover after cycle. No hcg during PCT tho.

[DGAF]

I would use 500iu`s every 5 days. I do it that way for every cycle I run and it works perfect for me. I mix mine with 1ml of the water. That gives you 5000iu`s in 1cc. So on an insulin pin the 10 mark will be 500iu`s.


DGAF

[die2live]

I typically use hcg only post cycle for 3 wks at 500IU M/W/F run with Nolva, then follow with 3 wks Clomid. Now I think if you are running heavier cycles it makes sense to run in-cycle as DGAF is recommending. But for me, I typically run fairly moderate dosages of 19-Nor's in my stack (the big culprits for testicular shutdown/atrophy) and usually stick to 12-16wk cycle lenght, so I don't find any problems sticking with this approach. If I were going heavier or longer I wouldn't hesitiate to go 500IU every 5 days.

[DGAF]

When you introduce an external source of testosterone to your body it will shut you down. Your body will see that your levels are high and will stop producing test based on that alone. If you are taking short esters that are in and out real quick then the use of HCG may not be necessary because of the quickness that the external test is out of your system. Now if you are taking a test with a long ester then it will have time build up and then around the 4 week mark or so it will release into your system causing high levels, if you are shooting multiple times a week then after the 4 week mark the release of hormone into your system is a few days apart from the last release causing the your levels to increase steadily from then on.

So thats my reasoning for using it during any cycle I do, especially long cycles. Dont matter what dose. And during shorter cycles I take it as that extra precaution so that I dont go into atrophy.

The dosages during cycle are way lower than the dosages post cycle. It only takes a minimal amount to keep you functioning right, but if you get shut down it takes alot higher of a dose to get you right again.

In short it is easier to keep it alive than it is to bring it back from the dead.

DGAF

[chadly]

Thanks for all the input, it really helps a lot. The cycle is simple though 50mg d-bol daily and 300 mg deca wkly. Headed into week 4 and was interested in how to incoperate the HCG and dose level. Thanks again Bro's, this is best part about this board, straight answers and no bull.

[atomicpump]

Just MO chadly, but Deca with no test in there even at a low dose sounds like a bad idea to me. Did you decide to cycle with no test involved for a reason? For me personally it would be a must to run some test with Deca or Tren just to ward off Deca dick even though I've heard of people doing it without....

Good call though on the HCG use..... it's a must with something as suppressive as Deca or Tren.

[esteban_760]

Just DECA? Chadly, I'm not trying to rip you here, but what research have you read that shows you should run a cycle with just Deca and d-bol??

Originally Posted by chadly

Thanks for all the input, it really helps a lot. The cycle is simple though 50mg d-bol daily and 300 mg deca wkly. Headed into week 4 and was interested in how to incoperate the HCG and dose level. Thanks again Bro's, this is best part about this board, straight answers and no bull.

[chadly]

Originally Posted by esteban_760

Just DECA? Chadly, I'm not trying to rip you here, but what research have you read that shows you should run a cycle with just Deca and d-bol??

Hey E, thanks for the consideration. But I was waiting on a usps to arrive today with the Cyp. I jumped the gun a little!, was tired of waiting