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Old 02-25-2008, 09:58 PM
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Question 1st cycle input?

Hi i was wondering if anyone thats experienced can help me out with building a good 1st cycle to keep the gains and avoid as much as possible water retention (i want to gain about 10 pounds and keep them! ). I know testosterone gives alot of water retention and is highly androgenic so i was thinking of skipping on this one. But everyone states that its the best on to start with.

On the other hand, i was thinking of doing a deca cycle but heres my problem ... should i stack it with something else to avoid the decadick since its really suppressive? Test e maybe? i.e. 200mg\wk deca, 200mg\week test? Or is this not good for a 1st cycle?

Also 3rd choice, was Primo, it sounds like the saffest of all and you keep your gains. Can anyone help me out with the gains of this one?

I just want you guys to understand that i do a cycle and keep as many gains as possible and have a relatively good libido at the same time if possible!

If anyone has done a good 1st cycle, please feel free to post it with gains made!

thanks for replies\help !
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:35 PM
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I would say for your first cycle stick to 1 supplement. My first thing I took was dbol. Gained a shit load of size also a lot of water rentention obv. I know all over the internet says high water retention was test but I think if you keep a clean diet and keep sodium low you won't have to worry much about high water rentention. I personal would say go with the test first and see how you react towards it for a first timer you should gain great size and strength.
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test enanth at 500mg per wk(250mg on mon and 250mg on thurs) read up on pct and make sure you get everything you need before you start your cycle. a good diet and good pct will help you keep your gains.
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I agree about doing just test first, no matter what you read about water retention everyone's body is different. I think you could run 1cc test/week for the first month then double up for 3 weeks then back to one for the last month. I can run 1000mgs of test and not get bloated but as I said everyone is different. You really shouldn't stack anything the first time becasue if you experience a side effect you don;t like then you won't know which compound is giving you those sides.
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deca only is gonna make you hold madddd water so thats out of question for you..... primo only is silly so no..... you should go test only for first. i would do enth but you could do a test prop cycle if you dont mind frequent injects.... test is test, esters make the difference

prop will make you hold less water, as stated above sodium intake can make a difference.... i would run 10mg nolva throughout to help with water and will prevent most gyno-related sides
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Deca only is a terrible idea. If it's your first cycle you will make gains with something like Eq and primo, but Test is definitely the most bang for the buck on the first cycle.

I would choose Test E.
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DECA = HELL NO if your talking about water retention for your first cycle run test e or test p, alot of people like to add dbol and anadrol but test is the best way to go you will be happy with the results and if you wanna shed some weight get some clen or run some eq for a long time (12+wks)
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hey thanks for all the replies ... sounds good what u guys said ill try to keep an eye on sodium and do good pct !
thanks again for the enlighthenement
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Test Only, Keep An AI On Hand If You Are Worried About Water Retention. Arimidex Pulls Water Off The Best IMO.
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Test E for 8 weeks
Anti E
proper PCT

No Deca
No Primo

Find out how much protein your body needs and incorporate it into your cycle.
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