Looking for some diet advice from Vets or anyone else

[mannip23]

A little back ground, just over two years ago I was 20 years old and an obese 300lbs. Of course I have worked my but of with diet, training and cardio for the past two years. I just took another 7 point Skin Caliber test (going to each point twice) today at my gym and the results were the following
Weight 191.5 lbs
Chest skinfold (mm)8.3
tricep skinfold (mm)7.9
suprailium skinfold (mm)8.1
Abdomen skinfold (mm)15.2
Thigh skinfold (mm)7.1
Subscapula skinfold (mm)11.0
Midaxillary skinfold (mm)7.5
My body fat was 8.4%

The problem is I probably will have to get down to 5% to look as lean as I want to. I mean my top abs show nicely but to two on the bottom you can barely see. There are two reasons for this
1) I have a crap load of loose skin because I loss well over 100lbs of body fat (i wish there was something to do about this besides surgery)
2) All my fat goes to my lower stomach, even when I was 300 lbs I never had any fat around my legs or glutes.
So being that I have a metabolism of an endomorph (sensitive to carbs). I decided a week ago to go to a strict carb cycling diet. This is the only way I will be able to get super lean. Basically I consume low carbs 3 days in a row. (just consuming in morning and PWO). Then the 4th day I go back to complex carbs with every meal. Then I repeat this. So right now my diet looks like this not counting supplements and pre and pwo shakes

Meal 1
6 egg whites
2 scoops whey isolate
3/4 cup rolled oats
fish oil/ flax

Meal 2
6 oz chicken breast
1 cup broccoli
12 almonds

Meal 3
6 oz turkey breast
4 sticks of celery
12 almonds

Meal 4 (pwo meal)
7 oz extra lean ground beef
1 cup of rolled oats
fish oil/flax

Meal 5
5 oz eye of round roast
4 sticks of celery
fish oil/flax

meal 6
8 oz shrimp
1cup broccoli
12 almonds

Meal 7
1/2 cup cottage
2 scoops of Cassin protein

My moderate carb day is exactly like this except I eat rolled oats, plain yams, or brown rice with every meal. Every other moderate carb day (every 8 days) I will have a cheat meal. What do yall think about this diet? I am also on my 2nd cycle and it was giving me amazing results as far as gaining the first few weeks. So basically I want to know should keep this carb cycling diet, or should I say fuck it and try to gain as much as I can on this cycle and use this diet down the road? I also do intense cardio 5-7 days a week. I am talking running up a stair stepper at full speed for 40 minutes. Thanks to anyone that responds!

[CPT316]

If I were you I'd do a ketogenic diet, like Dave Palumbo's, especially since you are carb-sensitive. You will see definite results off a program like that. Clen, T3, along with test prop and anavar will definitely help as well.

[nextBIGone]

I am also carb sensitive & I only consume high carbs on the weekend. I dont eat any carbs during the week besides veggies. Make sure you are eating enough fat & protein. Your diet looks good, although I do not understand why you are eating carbs & fat in your pwo meal. If your trying to lose, do not worry about replenishing your glycogen stores w/ carbs...take aminos & eat natty pb along w/ 50-70g of whey after your workout.

[YoungNJacked]

when i cut down i just sub in tuna and skinless chicken breast for other meat meals. also kick out the milk

[mannip23]

Originally Posted by CPT316

If I were you I'd do a ketogenic diet, like Dave Palumbo's, especially since you are carb-sensitive. You will see definite results off a program like that. Clen, T3, along with test prop and anavar will definitely help as well.

Found this on another board is this a rough outline of the diet? I don't like all they whey shakes in there, can I replace them with a whey,egg white, and cassien mix?

For a 200lb man:

MEAL #1
5 whole eggs (make sure to buy OMEGA-3 EGGS from the supermarket. They contain virtually NO saturated fat and tons of good OMEGA-3 fats); add another 4 egg whites to this (they don?t need to be the Omega-3 ones; you can use liquid egg whites)

MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)

MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)

MEAL #4
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)

MEAL #5
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar

MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (Omega-3) eggs and 4 extra whites

[Vargasty031]

Originally Posted by mannip23

Found this on another board is this a rough outline of the diet? I don't like all they whey shakes in there, can I replace them with a whey,egg white, and cassien mix?

For a 200lb man:

MEAL #1
5 whole eggs (make sure to buy OMEGA-3 EGGS from the supermarket. They contain virtually NO saturated fat and tons of good OMEGA-3 fats); add another 4 egg whites to this (they don?t need to be the Omega-3 ones; you can use liquid egg whites)

MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)

MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)

MEAL #4
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)

MEAL #5
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar

MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (Omega-3) eggs and 4 extra whites

You go with the Palumbo diet and you will not only feel like a million bucks but you will look like it too. Takes 3-4 days to get into ketosis but once you do, you will have more energy then ever. Your body begins running on ketones, which are fat. The great thing about this is you have pretty much and endless supply of stored fat to use and this is why you loose weight.

[mannip23]

One last question... Do you have a carb up day once a week with this diet? I know there are many negative side affects if your body stays in ketosis for to long thats why I was wondering this.

[flippin it]

The cheat meal: You should have ONE MEAL per week where you eat what you want. This “cheat” meal is the last meal of the particular day. If you have a psychotic appetite, limit the cheat meal to 500g of carbs at the absolute most (for a female it would be 200-250g at the most)…as you get closer to a show/goal, many times the cheat meal may have to be cut out to help the person suck out that last bit of stubborn fat. One cheat meal as the last meal of the day will only take you out of ketosis until the morning (12 hours for some, less than that in others, but you should be fine in the morning nevertheless)…your brain will need at least 2-4 meals of carbs to convince it that it was okay to switch back into a glucose-burning mode.


Hope this is what youre looking for.

flipp

[mannip23]

Thanks for the advice I started this on monday and my diet looks like this. Let me know how it looks

Meal 1
5 omega 3 eggs and
1/4 cup 2% shreded cheese
scoop and half whey isolate,
2 fish oil caps

Meal 2
2 scoops of Micellar Casein and whey isolate mix
1 tablespoon natural almond butter

Meal 3
8oz chicken breast
1/2 cup almonds


Meal 4
2 scoops of Micellar Casein and whey isolate mix
1 tablespoon natural almond butter

Meal 5
8oz lean ground meat patty
lettuce with low fat- carb free ranch
1/4 cup of almonds

Meal 6
4 omega 3 eggs
1/2 cup of egg whites
1/4 cup 2% shreded cheese
1.5 scoops of Micellar Cassein



I plan to do the carb up late sat- early sun. I train 6pm on Sat and 1pm on Sun. When should I start the carb up and when should I end it?

[mannip23]

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