peeing red

[thebige]

Ok maybe not literally but i figured that would get everyones attention. Anyway my girl is a perspective figure competitor, and everytime she runs, her kidney hurts and radiates pain completely around her abdomen. Her abdomen also swells up noticeably. She has a history of renal problems from reoccurring kidney infections and a CT scan revealed 2 small stones that may trying to pass. Well this scan was conducted a few months ago and still--every time she runs her kidney ends up hurting (although it doesn't put her down or anything). If she drinks alot of water it doesnt help either before or after, but if she is dehydrated it is definitely worse. From what i have learned calcium forms a sort of chemical ladder to which oxylates can adhere to and eventually form stones, but there is also conflicting data about high protein intake affecting renal function. From what i understand, high protein intake leads to high urea production which taxes the renal system. A friend of mine was hospitalized due to kidney problems after blood in his football physical urinalysis. They told him it was because of his high protein intake.

Could her condition be exacerbated by the high protein intake? The doctor just said to stay hydrated and didnt think protein intake mattered. Maybe the running just jogs loose those stones. I don't know. Any thoughts?

[ajdos]

Im surprised by the Drs attitude...renal issues are serious she needs to get a Dr who is willing to take a look at her - MRI or whatever a urologist needs to be consulted with here- whenever someone pees blood this is a bad thing.

[thebige]

Doc said 1 in 4 people have blood in their urine. Very intense workouts with weights and intense bouts of running can also produce blood in the urine, so its evidently not that uncommon in bodybuilders and athletes. And my post title was just an attention getter. There was blood in her urine but not enough to make it red by anymeans. And that was back then when the tests were done. Months past all that now, and she still has symptoms but no current tests to validate any blood in urine.

[ajdos]

Hmmm- never realized that is was that common 1 in 4- I wonder if Cranberry sups would help her a bit...

[Lockk]

If you can see the blood it's called gross hematuria I had this happen once and it freaked me out but after a whole bunch of tests nothing was found.The doctor I had was pretty good and I am confident the urologist was damn thorough both commented that yes it (gross hematuria) can happen and not have a problem associated with it but it's not very common.

Now having red blood cells in the urine at microscopic levels is a different story, here is a cut and paste for you of a partial article and a link to the whole thing which is long. Best of luck to your lady friend.


Blood in the Urine Causes, Symptoms, Diagnosis, Treatment, and Prevention by eMedicineHealth.com

Blood in the urine is not always visible. If the amount of blood is small, the urine looks normal. This is called microscopic hematuria because the blood cells are visible only under a microscope. Typically, this is discovered when the patient has a urine test for some other reason.

When there is enough blood to be visible, the urine may look pinkish, red, or smoky brown (like tea or cola). This is called gross or frank hematuria. It takes very little blood in urine to be visible —about one-fifth of a teaspoon in a half quart of urine.

A trace amount of blood in your urine is normal. The average person with a healthy urinary tract excretes about 1 million red blood cells (RBC) in the urine each day. This amount of blood is not visible. This is not considered to be hematuria.

An abnormal amount of blood in the urine can be acute (new, occurring suddenly) or chronic (ongoing, long term). Acute hematuria can occur just once, or it can occur many times.

Sometimes the urine can appear with a color indicating hematuria, but the urine actually does not contain red blood cells, but rather is discolored by medications or foods.

Up to 10% of people have hematuria. About 3% of people develop gross hematuria.

[jdjack]

Sorry bro this doc is dumb bc if you can notice red in urine its a PROBLEM. Go see a urologist immediately. Or at least a nephrologist. Its important. Does she have pain in her low back? While running? Are their anyother symptoms?
Let me know Ill try to help.

[The Anonymizer]

if its kidney stones high oxylate consumption might be more of a contributing factor than high protein intake.

off the top of my head, foods that are high in oxylates are spinach (#1), other green leafy vegetables including brocolli, and i think soy/tofu.

also, if her dairy consumption is really high, thus alot of calcium that could also be a contributing factor. i think i read that apple cider vinegar is supposed to help with kidney stones, but i'm not certain.

[thebige]

Thanks for all of the info guys. After further investigation, it turns out that she has a couple of small kidney stones that are trying to pass. Protein or urea based stones only account for 10% of kidney stones and do not show up on ultrasound and CT scans. Her stones do which means they are oxylate calcium based. People with anatomical limitations such as a genetically smaller ureter, are more prone to slow moving stones and difficulty passing them. Running or even a vibrating message tool can cause the stones to dislodge and move-- causing all of the symptoms she has. Urologist said to drink plenty of water and that in her case, protein intake was probably not a concern. Unfortunately, she will just have to deal with the process as ultrasound treatment to break up the stones runs in the neighborhood of $20,000 and insurance will not cover it as it is considered a "preexisting condition".

[shoalin]

Does she take calium supplements

[YoungNJacked]

im sorta suprised, because i drink tons of ff milk!!! ........im sorta interested in this thread......let me know how it all works out