HCG or HMG?

[Dr Dianabol]

I'm kind of an old guy (over 40) and I've been lifting and competing for a long time, but sometimes guys like us get caught up into using old stuff.

Like HCG. HCG is an LH agonist that works well to get the leydig cells in the testes to begin producing Test again. It's all ive used.

I have noticed though that there is a new product out there for this: HMG. It is apparently both an LH and an FSH agonist, so it starts the whole business working again.

Anyone have any experience with this? If so, please give dose, frequency of use, and duration. Also, do you like it better?

[atomicpump]

Although I don't have anything to offer regarding HMG's dose, frequency or duration of use the most common form of it I've seen used is Menopur. The one thing I wanted to add though is that I don't believe HMG is also a LH simulator but a FSH simulator in males. Most times I've heard of it used is in addition to using HCG not using HMG completely by itself as an alternative to HCG.

I think the regular protocol of using HCG for pre PCT or using it for long cycles is still a good way to go. I think the addition of HMG along with HCG might be beneficial for those who are VERY shut down and regular HCG + PCT involving Nolva/AI's/Clomid/other supplements is not performing as effectively as it should.

The owner of Primordial Performance knows his stuff on this subject, there are some threads from awhile back on his forum.

[Dr Dianabol]

Great post. Perhaps i am misinformed. I will try to do some research. I'm just not sure pubmed will yield anything on it. We'll see. I was definitely told it did both, but if it doesn't, that would explain why it's not very popular.

Thanks man.

[Quazi]

I'll definitely bump this thread for more info.
Its nice to see some people wanna discuss this type of stuff as opposed to who's gear is good and where to get it.
Personally, I havent tried HMG, and I havent heard much real-world feedback either. If anyone has any experiences please speak up.

[Wutgunz]

Ive never used it personally, but one of the guys I train with regularly wants to add it to his PCT in the next few weeks. He's a bit older than me (early 40's), so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Once he's on, I'll let you know what feedback I get from him.

[Dr Dianabol]

From what i can tell i stand corrected. Unless it is delivered in a composition with HCG, human menopausal gonadotropin (HMG) is an FSH agonist only.


Let me know how the guy likes it.

Anyone know if HMG is sold as a composition with HCG?

[Dr Dianabol]

I imagine it would be great for a budding porn star as well...

So IP says it works like HCG, not just FSH.

Gotta go with IP then.

[LT710]

Originally Posted by atomicpump

Although I don't have anything to offer regarding HMG's dose, frequency or duration of use the most common form of it I've seen used is Menopur. The one thing I wanted to add though is that I don't believe HMG is also a LH simulator but a FSH simulator in males. Most times I've heard of it used is in addition to using HCG not using HMG completely by itself as an alternative to HCG.

I think the regular protocol of using HCG for pre PCT or using it for long cycles is still a good way to go. I think the addition of HMG along with HCG might be beneficial for those who are VERY shut down and regular HCG + PCT involving Nolva/AI's/Clomid/other supplements is not performing as effectively as it should.

The owner of Primordial Performance knows his stuff on this subject, there are some threads from awhile back on his forum.

I heard/read that HMG is BOTH a LH and FSH stimulator...think I read it on another board...I'll see if I can find it...

[jack thomas]

Hmg works very good,but i prefer stacking it with hcg during cycle but like hcg i prefer not running it for pct.As dosages goes since hmg comes in 75iu amps,you need to split it in half thats 37.5iu taken twice per week.I will not recommend going over 75iu/wk.

j/t.