back width?

[jojo]

I had a person asked me a question I couldn't answer:
HOW DOES SOMEONE'S BACK GET WIDER? ok , Iam NOT asking for exercises.what we looking here for is the science behind the width not just because your lats are getting bigger answer either.

[preistfan]

Notwhat answer you are looking for. If it's not muscular than are you asking about skeletal width/growth? Once you hit about 18 yrs old your bone ends are fused and further bone growth is impossible. Your bone structure is your bone structure. That's why alot of guys can get big but only a few have the structure/genetics to be world class bodybuilders. I hope this helped you.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by preistfan

Notwhat answer you are looking for. If it's not muscular than are you asking about skeletal width/growth? Once you hit about 18 yrs old your bone ends are fused and further bone growth is impossible. Your bone structure is your bone structure. That's why alot of guys can get big but only a few have the structure/genetics to be world class bodybuilders. I hope this helped you.

This helped .ty

[onemuscledbeagle]

Concur with Priest. Skeletal structure is complete and growth plates are fused. However, as you well know, muscle belly size is increased by repeatedly stressing the fibers until they have micro breaks and then heal wider and stronger than before. An analogy would be like a person having a heart attack (heart muscle being stress). We draw bloods on them to see if specific enzymes to cardiac muscle have spilled out but there is a window peroid for being able to detect this rise in their labwork otherwise the levels begin to go back to normal. For skeletal muscle, with effective, intesnse training, you will have specific fiber breakdown and enzymes spilling out. That is why recovery is so important. To get those enzyme levels back to normal before stress the muscle again so that the micro fiber breakdown heals and over time gets wider and stronger.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by onemuscledbeagle

Concur with Priest. Skeletal structure is complete and growth plates are fused. However, as you well know, muscle belly size is increased by repeatedly stressing the fibers until they have micro breaks and then heal wider and stronger than before. An analogy would be like a person having a heart attack (heart muscle being stress). We draw bloods on them to see if specific enzymes to cardiac muscle have spilled out but there is a window peroid for being able to detect this rise in their labwork otherwise the levels begin to go back to normal. For skeletal muscle, with effective, intesnse training, you will have specific fiber breakdown and enzymes spilling out. That is why recovery is so important. To get those enzyme levels back to normal before stress the muscle again so that the micro fiber breakdown heals and over time gets wider and stronger.

Wow..awsome way of explaining it..thank you, and it's good to have someone with your knowledge around here.

[onemuscledbeagle]

Not a problem JoJo. Glad to be able to help.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by ribbler

there are excercises that can get you a bit wider in both area..guys do this on back day and chest day..classic pull over..shoulders to the bench..when you pull from behind your lungs will be full of air..when the pull over is in second stage you blow out..this will stretch the ribb cage expand the chest and make you thicker...like i said guys will throw this in on back day..or chest day..i know you didnt ask for excercises but..i wanted to throw out there you can manipulate your skel-frame...ribb

That's one of my favorite excercises I do..It is bad ass..THanx Ribbler

[jdjack]

The blood identifier that is present following a heart attack is called CPK. Its only present for 12-36 hrs following an attack (if memory serves me correct). The only problem with your analogy is that if the attack is strong enough it will kill the heart muscle and possibly the nervous attachment called bundle of his that power the heart to make it pump.
I think that possibly with hgh and igf-1 use there is the best amount of new muscle fiber production called hyperplasia. This will allow a larger amount of growth but unfortunately is extremely rare and when occuring is only in small percentages. Hope this helps.

JD

[jojo]

Originally Posted by jdjack

The blood identifier that is present following a heart attack is called CPK. Its only present for 12-36 hrs following an attack (if memory serves me correct). The only problem with your analogy is that if the attack is strong enough it will kill the heart muscle and possibly the nervous attachment called bundle of his that power the heart to make it pump.
I think that possibly with hgh and igf-1 use there is the best amount of new muscle fiber production called hyperplasia. This will allow a larger amount of growth but unfortunately is extremely rare and when occuring is only in small percentages. Hope this helps.

JD

wow.you lost me a bit when started talking about heart attack..lol., but I see what you are saying..thanx bro

[onemuscledbeagle]

Ok, not to take this out on a limb but there are 2 enzymes we check post heart attack. One is CPK and the second is Troponin levels. As a side note, if you do take statins to control cholesterol one of the issues to be aware of in rare cases is that it can cause damage to skeletal muscle and cause pain. This is called rhabdomyolisis and is monitored in regular chemistry bloodwork by looking at CPK levels. If they are too high they will reduce or stop the statin.