Cycle Advice

[StickFigure]

I'm about to start a 10 weeker of test and tren and arimadex. One of my buddies who has done about 5 cycles (all of which included Dbol) is trying to talk me into adding Dbol into the cycle.

This will be the first cycle I have done in a little over two years.

What do you guys think? Should I add the Dbol or leave it alone and just do the test/tren (the test/tren/arimadex was suggested by the person I will be training with who has alot of experience in this)?

If you need anymore info, just ask.

[MadManiac13]

More info please. What are your goals, stats, cycle experiance? Have you used Dbol before? Depending on what your cycle history is, dbol may be a good or a bad idea. Have you used Tren before? What dosages are you goign to run these compunds at? You see what I'm getting at? We need a lot more info to help. Help us help you, bro.

[bluestrm]

I think most important is have you ran Tren before? And you planning on Tren E or Ace?

[longhorn71]

Don't run tren for 10 weeks unless you have before.

[small_guy]

Again more info needed. Are you running long esters or short? Personally If your are running a long ester of test then I would run the test(not tren) at least 12 weeks. What dosages are you planning?

[huge500lb]

i would add the deca instead of the tren and yes add dball like up to 30mg hope all works out for ya.........

[StickFigure]

Originally Posted by MadManiac13

More info please. What are your goals, stats, cycle experiance? Have you used Dbol before? Depending on what your cycle history is, dbol may be a good or a bad idea. Have you used Tren before? What dosages are you goign to run these compunds at? You see what I'm getting at? We need a lot more info to help. Help us help you, bro.

OK, sorry so long to get back here. Too many other things going on right now.

The suggested cycle is as follows:
8-10 weeks
Tren A -- 75mg/ed
Test Prop -- 100mg/ed (starting with 50/ed for a week or two I believe)
dbol -- 40mg/ed
Arimadex
-It was also recently suggested I take Dostinex(sp)

Goals--Continue to drop bf% while gaining lean mass

Stats--Currently
35yrs old
5'9"
245lbs
~18% bf
~195lbs lean mass

Cycle Experiance--Two oral only cycles (one Anavar only, the second Anavar and dbol)

I hope I got down all the info you need. Thanks again or your patience and help!

[Chopper]

Originally Posted by StickFigure

OK, sorry so long to get back here. Too many other things going on right now.

The suggested cycle is as follows:
8-10 weeks
Tren A -- 75mg/ed
Test Prop -- 100mg/ed (starting with 50/ed for a week or two I believe)
dbol -- 40mg/ed
Arimadex
-It was also recently suggested I take Dostinex(sp)

Goals--Continue to drop bf% while gaining lean mass

Stats--Currently
35yrs old
5'9"
245lbs
~18% bf
~195lbs lean mass

Cycle Experiance--Two oral only cycles (one Anavar only, the second Anavar and dbol)

I hope I got down all the info you need. Thanks again or your patience and help!

Test Prop -- 100mg/ed (starting with 50/ed for a week or two I believe)
First off why would u start off with a lower dose of Test than what you would run for the rest of the cycle. Usually one would dbl the dosage for the first week or too. Also known as FRONTLOADING. IMO there is no need to front load the Test since your running Tren A and Test Prop, both very short esters

dbol -- 40mg/ed
No need for Dbol in there, u can run it if ya want but I personally wouldn't especially since your trying to continue to drop BF% Dbol will bloat ya and dont sound like you really want that.

Arimadex
-It was also recently suggested I take Dostinex(sp)

No need for Adex either. IF ya got it fine but most of us dont get too much bloat or gyno issue from Test Prop, some do so if ya got it then run it. Start off at .5mg EOD and adjust accordingly

Dostinex is used to help with the progresterin levels from the Tren. U may or may not need it. I didn't need it when i ran Tren A the first time. Vitamin b6 at 4-600mg ED works well for some too. Also from what little I know Dostinex does have some side effects as well, u may wanna look into that.


Cycle Experiance--Two oral only cycles (one Anavar only, the second Anavar and dbol)

Very brave to go from all orals to Test Prop. ED injections are a bitch to deal with, especially since you've never pinned yourself before. I would consider your dosages again. I would start off with 100mg Prop EOD and 75mg Tren EOD. See how you react and then bump up if needed. BUT I would still stick to EOD shots. Mix your Tren with your Prop to lessen the pain factor from the Test Prop. I think Prop/Tren is a great cycle. Excellent strength gains and if u eat clean the Tren will really harden you up and keep the bloat down and you'll really see an awsome transformation if your diet and training are on point.

I think that's All i have...anything I miss guys??

[MadManiac13]

^^^^^Good advice.

That is quite the jump, Stick. Orals only to Test prop/tren. If you got your shit straight, it'll be a good cycle though. Hope the tren treats you well. If you can deal with it (sides) it'll be awesome.

[Danomite]

If your gonna add any oral I'd maybe do either winny or var at 40-60mgs either the first six weeks or the last to really harden you up. Or maybe proviron throughout at 50mgs.