Cycle Critique Please!

[Deuce]

I hate to make this my first post on AnonBB, but...
My PT/friend put this together and would like straight up opinions on it. I'm not a very educated persion on IGF or Tren Ace (I'm running a test-e only cycle now) so I brought it to you guys. Feel free to modify...

Weeks 1-4:
Dbol @ 40mg/ED

Weeks 1-15:
Test E @ 500mg/Week

Weeks 2-12:
Deca @ 300mg/week

Weeks 7-12:
Tren Ace @ 75mg/EOD

Weeks 16-22:
IGF-LR3 @ 60mcg/ED

Week 18:
Nolvadex @ 40mg/ED

Week 19:
Nolvadex @ 30mg/ED

Week 20:
Nolvadex @ 20mg/ED

Notes:
- Deca is just for 10 weeks so he would only have to buy a 10ml, haha.

- Nolvadex is all he's ever used and has never had any issues.

- I don't know his exact stats, but I'd say he's about 6'0" @ 200-210lbs. with 9%bf with 2 cycles under his belt.

- My concern, with what I've come to learn so far, would be running Deca and Tren side by side.


Thanks,
Deuce.

[artforms]

Why bother with the Tren and the IGF. IMO, Tren Ace is for dieting for a show. IGF is a waste of hard earned money. Put that money toward FOOD! I have used it on three separate occasions at up to 100mcg/day with what I consider no results.

You want to get big, do the basics, TEST, DBOL, and DECA, eat, sleep, and train. I have been in this game for 21 years and have had the pleasure of training amateurs to IFBB Pros. My training partner is a IFBB pro and he would tell you the same thing. That's my opinion. No disrespect intended.

[longhorn71]

I hope you're not planning on having sex during that last 5 weeks with tren and deca together and only 500mg of Test!!!!

[hitch]

igf is a fantastic drug and superior to HGH.
i use tren while bulking and it does wonders.

but IMO tren and deca together will kill erections.

u can run 2 grams off test and still lose weight ,, it all depends on diet.
high calories and you gain on a good cycle. low calories and ur wasting ur time taking gear.

[The Anonymizer]

i would only change two things about that cycle:

1) swap the Deca for some EQ....that should prevent any problems with "little Deuce"

2) only use IGF1 for 4 weeks at a time....its a waste of money after that.


i think it looks like a great intermediate cycle.

[tiggerizme]

I don't think I could add any advise that has not already been stated.

[IFIWAS]

Add some MGF in with the IGF..everything I read says they work wonders together.

[Deuce]

Thanks for the replies- I'll pass all this input along!

[bluestrm]

I wouldn't suggest using Deca and Tren together! Either one alone has the potential to cause many problems through elevated prolactin levels.
If he is intent on running both, maybe move the Deca start date up to week one, and start the Tren Ace when he is out of Deca, and run that until the end of the cycle.
The only other advice I would suggest is to have an anti-prolactin drug on hand just in case and definitely use some HCG for this cycle. I seriously doubt that Nolva alone will suffice.

[MadManiac13]

Originally Posted by bluestrm

I wouldn't suggest using Deca and Tren together! Either one alone has the potential to cause many problems through elevated prolactin levels.
If he is intent on running both, maybe move the Deca start date up to week one, and start the Tren Ace when he is out of Deca, and run that until the end of the cycle.
The only other advice I would suggest is to have an anti-prolactin drug on hand just in case and definitely use some HCG for this cycle. I seriously doubt that Nolva alone will suffice.

Thank you, that is what I was thinking. I know a few bros that have had troubles using Nolva only PCT, especially with Nandrolone compounds. Please consider running HCG at the very least.