What do you all think of this lean mass cycle ?

[clarkage]

I weigh around 205-210 with about 10-12% body fat..I am naturally really skinny before I ever started lifting and i eat horribly..I literally eat fast food twice a day ( I know, i hear it from EVERYBODY, it's horrible for me and it's the worst food for me to eat)....but i can't gain wieght to save my life..even eating fast food all the time ....I plan to rid the fast food out of my diet on this cycle and replace it with high protein/low fat meals..so that right there will make me a lot leaner...I have done 3 cycles so far...and they were all bulking cycles...I am looking for lean mass...i want to gain 10-15 pounds of lean mass...I have never tried Tren or winstrol before..just Dbol,Deca, and Test...my cycle looks like this.. 1000mg of organon sustanon( a shot every other day) for 12 weeks, winstrol at 50mg everyday for the first 6 weeks, then Tren acetate at 400mg a week for the last 6 weeks...I am repping 315 for 8-10 reps (depending if it's a shitty day or not) on flat bench right now, I want to be repping 365 for 8... and weighing atleast 220 lean...I will be starting in december...i am pretty excited because I have heard SO much about Tren and I am finally going to try some...is there anything that anyone suggests I should add or get rid of..or anything..anythign at all..just let me know..

[etxlifter]

thats a lot of test and wouldnt reccommend that much but im not your daddy so do what u want. but i would run the cycle like this if your stuck on those 3 compounds:

weeks 1-12
test

weeks 1-8
tren eth

weeks 7-12
winny

[clarkage]

so you think the Tren E would be a better choice ? i have heard that a lot people like the Tren Ace better because it kicks in in a couple days opposed to the enanthate that takes a couple of weeks...and when you say that there is too much test..are you saying that the sides will out-weigh the benefits ? I am just curious because my second cycle I did 750mg of sus and got incredible gains...on my 3rd cycle I made the mistake of taking 500mg in the beginning and that did nothing for me..i went up to 750 the last 6 weeks and started to see better gains with the cycle.....another thing I was considering was replacing winstrol with anavar..I am not worried about the money difference in the 2 and I have legit sources to both of them...Thank you very much for the response

[etxlifter]

well as far as the test dosage goes, you havent left yourself with much choice do to your prior poor cycle choices. i cant believe this is gonna be your 4th cycle and your already at that high of a dose.

you could do tren ace instead of eth. i just said TE because of the cycle length you proposed. your choice though but i would say with that cycle length that TE would be the better choice of the 2.


And i personally like var better then winny but thats your choice. I would switch though.

[huskerfolife]

i did this same cycle in the summer and had very good results. i agree with EXT...i went with the var instead of winny and i didnt do ner that much test. Ext. has put together a great cycle for ya. i would go with that if i were in your shoes. good luck

[ricker35910]

Originally Posted by clarkage

so you think the Tren E would be a better choice ? i have heard that a lot people like the Tren Ace better because it kicks in in a couple days opposed to the enanthate that takes a couple of weeks...and when you say that there is too much test..are you saying that the sides will out-weigh the benefits ? I am just curious because my second cycle I did 750mg of sus and got incredible gains...on my 3rd cycle I made the mistake of taking 500mg in the beginning and that did nothing for me..i went up to 750 the last 6 weeks and started to see better gains with the cycle.....another thing I was considering was replacing winstrol with anavar..I am not worried about the money difference in the 2 and I have legit sources to both of them...Thank you very much for the response

for your first time using tren use tren acetate to see how your body will react, if you have bad reactions or get bad sides you can come off quicker than you could with tren e.

[merckon]

I did a cycle with the sust ans var and tren ace,great results!You do know though that the tren is a every other day injection right??? Anyway that was a great cycle for me and kept most of the gains.Good luck brother and be safe!

[clarkage]

Yeah i knew it was an every other day thing..i plan on doing the sustanon every other day through out the entire cycle so i figured when i finally started the tren all it would do was just add another CC to my injections by doing the tren and the sustanon on the same days...I figured this cycle will give me the most solid bulking gains I could keep on a cycle...

[1BigDeadHead]

That is a ton of test for your third cycle. I would also suggest taking tren ace because the sides can be a bitch. I would also run the winnie with the tren ace and shoot the tren like 50mg/ed or eod. But thats just me do what you want and good luck to you.

On a side note what kinda calories and ratio are you planning on having during your cycle???

[clarkage]

Originally Posted by 1BigDeadHead

That is a ton of test for your third cycle. I would also suggest taking tren ace because the sides can be a bitch. I would also run the winnie with the tren ace and shoot the tren like 50mg/ed or eod. But thats just me do what you want and good luck to you.

On a side note what kinda calories and ratio are you planning on having during your cycle???

It's my 4th, not my 3rd cycle... And I plan on taking sustanon EOD through the entire cycle..so yeah, I already planned on doing Tren at 100 mg EOD on the last 6 weeks on the same days as the sus...My winstrol is oral..I plan on taking 50mg a day if I don't use Var...My calories are going to be atleast 4,500 a day...400 Grams of protein a day, 2 gallons of water a day...everyone is syaing that is a bit of test...I could always drop the dose down to 875mg