How Govt keeps us in control

[donjuan3705]

OK, I will try to explain this the best I can.
No modern government would be able to control society without the imminent THREAT of an external or internal enemy. To put it simple, WAR makes the stable government of societies possible. Without war being the unifying factor people would focus there attention on other things such as government corruption, free energy, systems that would actually better society and not cater to the benefits of the ruling 1%.Government sponsored terror events such as the sinking of the Lusitania, the burning of the Reischtag, and the attack on Pearl Harbor, awere precursors to elite-planned military campaigns which serve several functions it triggers nationalistic war spirit, and channels the energy toward the enemy. Remember the Oklahoma City bombings and the defamation of militias in the media. The Oklahoma bombings served several purposes breaking up the militias and etching the idea of terrorism into America while unifying the nation and setting up the country for the upcoming war on terror.
Once we realize that "our" government is not our government and that it has been corporatised we can kind of understand the mentality that is being displayed. Many nations have billions of dollars invested in our country and if they observe the people of America waking up to the corrupt fallibility of the government these countries would beginning pulling out of America. Remember that the economy is a matter of national security. Killing a few thousand for the greater good is no big deal to them.
War is BIG business it creates jobs, makes the rich richer, has the people begging for more of their own rights to be taken away while reunifying the sheeple. A peaceful society is possible but it threatens millions of jobs that would not be needed without the threat of war. I feel that people are waking up to this though and this is another reason that there seems to be a rapid grab for our rights by the government.

I mean think about it, if there were no threats of war, crime, etc would we need government? Citizens and populations in societies do not want wars, governments do!

The way this happens is actually based on an old tactic called Hegelian Dialectic principles. This means problem, reaction solution. They (the gvt) create a problem, it causes a reaction in the people (us) and they (gvt) give us a solution. IT IS ALL ENGINEERED.

Havent you noticed how during election time a politician is always running on some issue that they created and say need fixing and they are the candidate that will fix the problem. I mean its almost laughable.

The government gets exactly what they want. They dont want better schooling better health care no wars etc if this happened we wouldnt need them for anything, period.


Hegelian Dialectic principles problem reaction solution is the key here. Ill give examples if people show interest in this topic.
the war on terror is a big one

[F250]

I'm interested in what you're saying, but I need you to please clarify one thing for me...

Do you think the bombing in OKC was carried out by our Federal government?

[donjuan3705]

I am not saying they didnt have any involvement but I am also saying they need terrible events to happen to stay in power. How do you think Hitler unified Germany and was able to start the war, he burned Reichstag and blamed it on a retard. I can find you some you tube clips of pundits openly saying we need another 9/11 incident to unify the nation.

There is alot of money spent on intelligence agencies and there doesnt seem to be much intelligence.

[felon4life]

i don't put anything past any goverment of any country and the sick, low down and evil shit that they will do in order to get the mass people backing their cause. i believe that the goverment of this so called great country has always had an agenda that was other than taking care and looking out for us tax paying citizens. you think that i want my taxes going to the war in iraq or the war on drugs, instead of health care for children or senior citizens? this country is a lost cause, on a downward spiral and will never be the same, sit back, do nothing and watch and see. shit is only getting worse and if you think different then your a fool. only an uprising by the people against the goverment will make a change, we are being oppresed, if you think we are not then why are we as grown adult men and women going to prison for wanting to make educated, responsible choices regarding improving our health and physical fitness, when there is scientific and medical research to back our choice? the goverment wants to control our every choice and they are slowly suceeding, you will see, and i am no paranoid, conspiracy theory loser either, i just know what i know and can see right thru the bullshit.

[donjuan3705]

Originally Posted by felon4life

i don't put anything past any goverment of any country and the sick, low down and evil shit that they will do in order to get the mass people backing their cause. i believe that the goverment of this so called great country has always had an agenda that was other than taking care and looking out for us tax paying citizens. you think that i want my taxes going to the war in iraq or the war on drugs, instead of health care for children or senior citizens? this country is a lost cause, on a downward spiral and will never be the same, sit back, do nothing and watch and see. shit is only getting worse and if you think different then your a fool. only an uprising by the people against the goverment will make a change, we are being oppresed, if you think we are not then why are we as grown adult men and women going to prison for wanting to make educated, responsible choices regarding improving our health and physical fitness, when there is scientific and medical research to back our choice? the goverment wants to control our every choice and they are slowly suceeding, you will see, and i am no paranoid, conspiracy theory loser either, i just know what i know and can see right thru the bullshit.

I keep my thoughts on government and politics somewhat reserved because the truth will take people out of their comfort zones. No one wants to believe their government would do them wrong but the fact is our government is not our government, it is an establishment run by big money and corporations.
An armed uprising is the only way to turn this thing around and the gov knows it thats why they are trying to pass blanket legislation further restricting gun rights. Did you know one of the bills they are going to pass will prevent a VETERAN diagnosed with any mental disorder including PTSD from carrying a gun the bill also includes ADD, ADHD, bipolar, and many other disorders.
The shit is about to hit the fan!!

I love this country but decadence and laziness got us in this situation and i dont see a happy ending.

why do you all think gas is getting so expensive, food more expensive? The dollar value is dropping. This is engineered.

Businesses are filing bankruptcy and foreign banks and nations are coming in and buying up all our businesses cheap they are consolidating power, just like they did during the depression.

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Franklin D. Roosevelt

[justintempler]

This video actually isn't about the actual event of 911 but what lies beneath it and why it happened. It follows the same reasoning as what donjuan is talking about. It's actually 15 parts just follow the link right below.
(example on part 1 the link reads This is a video response to Truth and Lies of 9/11- pt 2 )

Truth and Lies of 9/11- pt 1
YouTube - Truth and Lies of 9/11- pt 1

[donjuan3705]

this one is MINDBLOWING
Loose Change 2E

[unnatural1]

Thats a great video. If anyone wants to read a good book on how the government rule through threat of violence, pick-up 'The Sovereign Individual" by Davidson and Rees-Mogg. Its old (1997), but a lot of what they have said has come true, eg. bin-Ladin.

-U