Cycle about to start here for me...here is the blue print

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Well it is time for me to start this cycle. I have been delaying it since xams times for personal reasons...neck brace for several weeks will do that to you.

I feel very positive this time around too, something I work on when the time approching my cycles comes. psychological work is a main part of it all.

I am at 220-225lbs 5'-10" at around 14% (not too happy about it but it happens)
My last cycle was late last summer and it was heavy to average 1500mgs compilled of several compounds (as usual)

This will be a 16 weeker:

week 1-18 500mgs prop**

Test E week 1-8 750mgs
Cypio week 8-16 750mgs

Deca week 1-16 600mgs (I have not run deca in sesveral years now, was mainly on EQ for my last few big cycles, so I am looking forward to it)

I will be using IBEs oral IGF (I have run it in the past, and I love it)

Week 1-4 40mcgs 5 days on and 2 off--28 day cycle
Week 8-12 Same as above
Week 16-20 PCT of course, same as above

I will be running nolva at 20mgs from week 6-16 mainly to keep gyno in check
HCG during during week 10-18 at 500ius E4days

NOW I have 3 options on which I could use some ideas from you. I want to use one of these compounds at the end. To be honest either one of them will do:

Option 1:
Tren ace week 10-18 300mgs

Option 2:
Winstrol 50mgs week 10-18

Option 3:
Var week 10-18 30mgs ED

I want this cycle to be a bulker to take me to 250lbs AT 12% on the nose. So it is why I have those last options to make my last 8 weeks more beneficial to me, PLUS the IGF will also do some great work in there.
As far as water retention I don't see much of a problem, but eithe one of my last 3 options wil help me cut it down anyhow.


**Note: I am running lots of prop this time around, since it is kind of my favorite compound, and I have too much 10ML 100mg left from a lab that does not longer exist. The compound expired this past November and I want to make use ot it. Will take me 3 similar cycle to finish it all, no problems.



PCT:

Will consist of Nolva week 18-20 60mgs ED
Clomid week 18-20 100mgs ED

Nolva 20-22 40mgs ED
Clomid 20 22 50mgs ED

I am looking forward to this cycle very much, as I have never passed 230lbs inthe last 4 years, it has been my top weight.
This ast few months I have been cruising on low dosages, nothing to worry about.

My diet will consist of my usual 30 PLUS eggwhites, lots of protein, white chicken, rice.....and def B12



B2J4E

[MadManiac13]

Nice, that'll be killer. I'm a Tren Junkie, so normally I'd go with that, but I'm not sure if I'd run Tren and Deca at the same time or even in the same cycle. I've not experienced the prolactin sides, etc....but that seems a little much.

As far the Var, I don't think 30 mgs is really going to be noticable, so it seems like maybe a waste of money to me.

So, I'd go with the Winny. But, did you really mean 50 mgs a week? or did you mean ED.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Originally Posted by MadManiac13

Nice, that'll be killer. I'm a Tren Junkie, so normally I'd go with that, but I'm not sure if I'd run Tren and Deca at the same time or even in the same cycle. I've not experienced the prolactin sides, etc....but that seems a little much.

As far the Var, I don't think 30 mgs is really going to be noticable, so it seems like maybe a waste of money to me.

So, I'd go with the Winny. But, did you really mean 50 mgs a week? or did you mean ED.

I have been working on this cycle for now a couple of months, as far as wht I want in it. I want to hit my goal with certainty on my BF% as well.

The winstrol is 50mgs ED of course. I have witnessed over the years that this is the magical dosage to avoid joint pain as well. AND it does a beautiful job at the end of my cycles when it comes to hardenning me up.

So up the var a litte? I am open to that idea as well.



B2J

[longhorn71]

Read the var dose thread on this board, a lot of people chimed in on that one.

Just out of curiosity, why are you switching from Test E to Test C? Do you only have enough Test E to get to week 8?

[cliftonp72]

Originally Posted by longhorn71

Read the var dose thread on this board, a lot of people chimed in on that one.

Just out of curiosity, why are you switching from Test E to Test C? Do you only have enough Test E to get to week 8?

A lot of bros switch in the middle of there cycle when they are a little longer.

B2j I would up the var to 50mg ed or use 50mg winny ed.

Tren and deca together are kind of rough on your proactive levels. I think somebody mentioned that.

Other than that it looks good. You can hit that 240 mark no problem bro.
Peace,

CLifton

[MadManiac13]

Originally Posted by cliftonp72

A lot of bros switch in the middle of there cycle when they are a little longer.

B2j I would up the var to 50mg ed or use 50mg winny ed.

Tren and deca together are kind of rough on your proactive levels. I think somebody mentioned that.

Other than that it looks good. You can hit that 240 mark no problem bro.
Peace,

CLifton

I'd agree with that. Honestly, I usually run Var at 80 mgs ed, never less than 60mgs ed. That gets expensive, but I never really seem to "feel" the Var much under that dosage. I still think winny is your best bet, save your var and run a bigger diosage on your next cycle.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Clifton, that is actually a more realistic goal lol 240 with 2%??

Yes both those tests are interchanagle during longer cycles, I encourage this practice.

I kind of see your point with the deca and tren, I am just itching to run that tren though.

The var sounds like a tight idea as well.

I am projecting start up Early this coming up week.



B2J

[Sev1512]

Going by your goals alone I would DEFINTILY say go with anavar.

I have used 40mg-80mgs before, and find my best dose at 60mgs, but it does seem to still be stronger at 80mg, but not that much to justify the extra cost per dose.

Anavar has been shown to burn visceral fat.
I always burn tons of fat while on var.

Var is hands down my favorite AAS. I never get one side with var and always have great results.

[Sev1512]

Also B2J could you PM me about the oratropin? I heard it was a waste, and I have heard it was good. I have read some of your posts and you seem to know what your doing so I am wondering you take on it.

What was your dosing like, was it during PCT, and what were your results/sides?

[SDL]

Looks great. Cant wait to see the results.