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Old 05-09-2006, 07:18 PM
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Talking A little help on a cycle please.........

Next cycle consisting of

1000mg test Enanthate 1-12
600mg eq 1-11
50mg var 7-14

Lengths seem ok?
Would anybody change mg counts? This is basically my third cycle done correctly. My younger days I pissed away money at little mini cycles with horrible diets.My past three cycles were Test only.

i'm hoping to gain strength and cut up on this. I have my diet and workout down. Any suggestions or changes would be appreciated.

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too much test

don't run anavar, your not lean enough

the eq dose is fine

IMHO you should not be doing steroids
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Read the Var dose thread that I started. You might want to bump that up to around 75mg or so.
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Seems like a good cycle.
A gram of test a week will put some really nice size onto your frame.
I take it that your wanting to use equipose over deca due to equipose having less water retention and bloat.
Are you using the anavar at the end to kindda give you some extra lean gains or maybe even lean you out a slight bit better.
I just ask as youve not said what your goal is , im thinking it bulking.
i would agree with longhorn that 75mg of var is better as it is a pretty weak steroid. cost wise i prefer dianabol , but then you have the bloat problem unless you use some arimidex to control that.

I never liked equipose as i do honeslty like having the water retention for lubicrating my joints so deca is my choice.

ive been using steroids since i was 20.
only now im using big cycles so to say.
here is my cycle , maybe you might get some ideas from it , but IMO its been the best cycle ever for me.

Test prop 150mg eod
Tren ace 75mg eod
test enthate blend at 1,400mg per week
T-3 at 12.5mcg per day
Anadrol at 50mg ED

from next week im introducing insulin at 10iu per day.
I stay on gear for 6 months to a year but not at high doses the entire time . i will do a mass cycle like above and then switch it round to none androgenic steroids so i can carve out the new mass a bit.
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too much test

don't run anavar, your not lean enough

the eq dose is fine

IMHO you should not be doing steroids
I can't wait to see your pics


Looks good. I would shoot EOD. Also you might want to run the Test a week longer.

Below is assuming 250mg test e and 150mg EQ shot EOD. Notice how the EQ tapers off much more slowly. You might want to extend this out to a 20 weeker and kill the EQ 3 weeks before the test. If you really wanted to run boldenone 'til the last minute, you could try bold prop.

Day 84: 1259.9mg T, 908mg E
Day 85: 1141.3mg T, 857mg E
Day 86: 1033.6mg T, 809mg EQ
Day 87: 936.3mg T, 764mg EQ
Day 88: 847.9mg T, 721mg EQ
Day 89: 768.1mg T, 681mg EQ
Day 90: 695.5mg T, 643mg EQ
Day 91: 630.1mg T, 607mg EQ
Day 92: 570.5mg T, 573mg EQ
Day 93: 516.9mg T, 541mg EQ
Day 94: 468mg T, 511mg EQ
Day 95: 424mg T, 482mg EQ
Day 96: 383.9mg T, 456mg EQ
Day 97: 347.8mg T, 430mg EQ
Day 98: 314.9mg T, 407mg EQ
Day 99: 285.3mg T, 384mg EQ
Day 100: 258.3mg T, 362mg EQ
Day 101: 234mg T, 342mg EQ
Day 102: 211.9mg T, 322mg EQ
Day 103: 191.9mg T, 304mg EQ
Day 104: 173.8mg T, 287mg EQ
Day 105: 157.4mg T, 271mg EQ
Day 106: 142.5mg T, 255mg EQ
Day 107: 129.1mg T, 241mg EQ
Day 108: 116.9mg T, 227mg EQ
Day 109: 105.9mg T, 214mg EQ
Day 110: 95.9mg T, 202mg EQ
Day 111: 86.9mg T, 190mg EQ
Day 112: 78.6mg T, 180mg EQ
Day 113: 71.3mg T, 169mg EQ
Day 114: 64.4mg T, 160mg EQ
Day 115: 58.5mg T, 150mg EQ
Day 116: 52.8mg T, 142mg EQ
Day 117: 48mg T, 133mg EQ
Day 118: 43.3mg T, 126mg EQ

probably couldn't start PCT until day 130 or so. The Var will help keep androgen levels up...but not enough to keep you going sexually, so you could also finish the last few weeks with test prop.
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Thanks guys! Great info!

Yeah I'm trying to keep the water down by using EQ. I need to make weight for some stuff coming up. Trying to get some size. The var is for extra strength gains and lean muscle at the end like you said. I think I'll take your guys advice on the var.

I may actually change some things after reading your replies. Good stuff guys. I'll let you know which way I'll go. Exactly what I need, you guys are great help.

Interesting cycle Hitch.

"I stay on gear for 6 months to a year but not at high doses the entire time"

What kind of dose are you talking?
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Like said above run the EQ for atleast 16 weeks if you are gonna run the Test that long.

IMO I would rather run Tren/Test together than Test/EQ for a harder/leaner cycle.

For mass I say Test/Deca with some sort of bumpstarter, Drol/Dbol, or my personal favorite 100mg of Prop EOD for the first 28 days. LOVE IT MAN!
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too much test

don't run anavar, your not lean enough

the eq dose is fine

IMHO you should not be doing steroids
Very Uncalled for FIVE 8....

13...if you eat like you are bulking LEAN and do around 15-20 mins cardio after your workout while drinking a shake, the var should make you a lil leaner...IMO, I would trade up the var for some winny, unless your joints cant handle it...everything else looks good to me from the responses I ahve read....best of luck!
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since you asked 13 i will let you see what i normally do.

The cycle i listed above my mass cycle at the moment and its going very well.

certain compounds i run for only certain amount of time.
insulin at 10iu a day is only for 6 weeks as it is only recomended for a short time frame as to much can and will make you a lifetime diabetic.
most people run an oral at the start of their cycle for around 4 weeks as it does take long esters about 4 weeks before we see the visual start to our gains , well yes i do kindda jump start with test prop , but i have found that for me personally as i run 6 month cycles that when my gains start to stagnat a bit i will introduce a heavy androgen like anadrol to hopefully shock the body into further growth, this works great for me.
i do shake things up abit at around the 15 week mark when i will introduce new compounds such as winstrol and insulin and near the end off the cycle i focus on compounds which are very mild , winstrol being one.
then ofcourse during pct we will run igf-1 as it really helps us to keep are gains. during pct we will lose muscle but igf-1 prevents this to a certain degree.
now because we have ran a 6 month cycle are body has got use to carrying the extra muscle and alot more of that gain is lean muscle mass compared to a short 10 - 12 week cycle.
when not running a heavy dose i will run a HRT dose of around 100 - 200mg of cypionate per week and now i will be adding HGH from next month.
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too much test

don't run anavar, your not lean enough

the eq dose is fine

IMHO you should not be doing steroids
This is the second thread that you have been blasting 13 on.
Annonymizer has set the cards out for you now , you either post ur own pics by friday and let us see if ur mr universe or you will be r first banned member.

Im sick off see"ing this shit.
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