Critique and comment on this 2nd AAS cycle

[esteban_760]

Hello all,

Here’s a situation requiring some feedback:

Firstly, this will be a second cycle with the first being 12 weeks of 400mg/weekly Test-E and 10 weeks of 250mg/weekly Deca-D. PCT 4 weeks of Nolva at 20/20/20/20. I understand most people advise against using two compounds for a first cycle, and to just use Test. The two compounds were used for a few reasons. After finishing the 1st cycle, blood work was completed and the only negative was a a strong test. shut down in the system. With that being found, the 2nd cycle PCT will be changed.

Cycle
Weeks 1 – 4 or 6: Liquid Anavar 40mg/daily
Weeks 1 – 14: Test-E 500mg/weekly
Weeks 1 – 14: EQ (Bold-Undec.) 400mg/weekly
Weeks 1 – 10 or 12: Deca-D 250mg/weekly
*(Weeks 10 – 14: Winstrol ((Stanz.)) Tablets 50mg/daily)*
Weeks 2 – 12: HCG 250iu/bi-weekly
PCT:
Partially from Anthony Roberts:
Weeks 15 – 20: Nolvadex 20mg/day
Weeks 15 – 19: Aromasin 20mgs/day
Weeks 15 – 17: Vitamin E 1,000iu/day

So let me define the “method to the madness” before people respond with “this cycle contains too many compounds for a second cycle.”
1.) The Anavar is used to jump-start the cycle for strength gains as well as lean muscle retention
2.) Adding EQ for its supposed increased appetite, mild androgenic, and mild estrogenic effects
3.) The test speaks for itself and upping from 400mg/weekly to 500mg/weekly this cycle should still be pretty potent while minimizing aromatization.
4.) Adding the Deca-D 250/weekly because of its joint benefits as well as the possibility of adding Winstrol (Stanz.) 50mg Orals for the last 4 weeks of the cycle – but not because of its “cutting effect. Rather, because of the suggested anti-progestagenic effects that will help with the natural test recovery during PCT thus helping minimize muscle loss.
5.) The HCG was dropped from the PCT as it will be run throughout the cycle.

Quick note here: I understand that people might think using EQ and Deca in the same stack will be counterproductive due to their “same receptor site bonding.” However, I have read some sound articles saying the opposite. But playing devils advocate, and say that the two basically do not create any more of an anabolic effect than using one alone; the increased appetite and mild estrogenic effects from the EQ outweigh its non-use.

Questions:
1.) Should the EQ be frontloaded at 800mg for two weeks then go back down to 400mg/weekly?
2.) Since the Winstrol is being used for its estrogenic side-effect counteraction, should it only be used for 2 or 3 weeks? Or even dropped all together?
3.) Can anyone that has used Winstrol verify the reported mental “depressive” effect on its user?
4.) Should the HCG be placed back into the PCT as 500iu/daily for 3 weeks?
5.) Any general thoughts or comments on improving the cycle?


I know there are lots of questions and lots of information; so any advice would be greatly appreciated!

[filthyr]

The cycle looks good. My only caution is adding so many compounds,
if you have any neg sides it may be harder to pinpoint.

No problem with winny blues. Only pumps that make me feel like im
gonna explode......

[atomicpump]

Originally Posted by ribbler

..not a fan of hcg...ribb

Ribb,

Just curious, but why don't you like HCG? Especially on cycle to keep your testes functioning.... HCG is too suppressive for PCT IMO, but it seems 500IU a week while on is a good idea no? There are men on HRT that receive HCG shots each week from their Dr.