Advice please!!!

[exeman]

I have been training lately and have not had any energy when working out. Right now I am taking 100mg test suspension ed and 900mg deca ew. I am working out every other day calories are at about 5000 a day. I am also taking clen/t3 combo so I don’t gain to much bf while bulking I am 5' 10" 242 lbs 12% bf. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

[F250]

Originally Posted by exeman

I have been training lately and have not had any energy when working out. Right now I am taking 100mg test suspension ed and 900mg deca ew. I am working out every other day calories are at about 5000 a day. I am also taking clen/t3 combo so I don’t gain to much bf while bulking I am 5' 10" 242 lbs 12% bf. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

I'll start with the most obvious. How much sleep are you getting? This is just based on my own experience, so take it for what it's worth. The clen could be disrupting your sleep patterns to a certain degree. I know when I use stimulants, I often don't get into a really deep sleep, and I feel tired and fatigued more often. Also, at 242 and 12%, I don't think I would be worried about getting fat. You would be in a much better position to manipulate your body composition with your diet, rather than with clen and T3. If you were 242 and 20%, that would be a different story. Bulking and not putting on BF is an oxymoron. If you're going to gain muscle, you're going to put on some BF. I'm sure you know this. Just don't limit your muscle building potential because you're scared of a little BF. It's almost winter anyway! Haha! Hope this helps some.

F250

[forged]

Re-examine your doses on the clen and T-3. To much of either can cause this problem but, most times the clen is it blame. I started to have the same problems about 2 weeks ago so I stopped the clen and reduced my t-3 intake. I've just now got my strength back. I also ached all over mainly in my joints. You really need to be careful with clen and t-3 you can fuck yourself up real easy. Peace Forged

[exeman]

I am getting my eight hours of sleep so I don't think that is the problem my dosage of clen is 100mg ed and t3 is 50mg per day.. I have also noticed that my joints have started to hurt while taking clen but I would have thought that the deca should have taken care of this any ideas on how to lubricate them any better?

[The Anonymizer]

#1 - dont take clen while bulking. you're wasting your bulk cycle. some T3 is okay, but 50mcg MAX

#2 - thats alot of deca....like a WHOLE LOT for just that small amount of test. watch out for progestenic side effects.


I think its the clen/cytomel making you tired and joint pain is a side of too much thyroid. i'd say stop the clen completely and drop the cytomel to just 12.5mcg TWICE to 3 TIMES per day.

Also, if you're so worried about fat gain you might be eating real clean.....you might be anemic. if you dont eat red meat on a regular basis get some Slow FE pills and take 1 at night with a Vitamin C tablet.

[exeman]

Ok I will try dropping the clen and see how that goes… Thanks for your suggestions!