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Old 05-08-2006, 12:21 AM
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Run the Tren past the Test or the Test past the Tren?

12-16 weeker.
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Be careful when running tren for extended periods of time. I would recommend having your blood checked about half way through the cycle. Run the Test for an additional two weeks past the Tren. This will increase the libido failure commonly reported from Tren.
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weeks 1-16 test e 500 mg
weeks 4-16 tren e 250 mg
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I would say run the cycle like this

Tren E weeks 1-13
Test weeks 1-16

Trust me, You will want to stop the tren e before the test...I give 3 weeks difference...Being THAT shut down at week 16 is a total bitch for PCT...Hang on to HCG, B-6, and lots of clomid...there are reports of many people needing to run clomid longer when using tren.....your cock and your girlfriend/boyfriend j/k will appriciate it...Tren dick...and not even wanting any sex......If you run Five*'s protocol, YOU WILL ALREADY BE SHUT THE FUCK DOWN WHEN YOU START THE TREN....I, through personal experiance with tren find it MUCH more effective at the begining of a cycle...and tail off at the end...JMO, Not bashing Five_8's idea at all...you have to find what works for you amd stick with it....tren is a bitch on your kidneys...after so long you will be peeing brown, lol Please! INCLUDE CRANBARRY FORTE CAPS AND Drink 1 glass of cranberry juice a day...plenty of water too....you can even mix the 2 together and add a lil dextrose to make a mildly sweet cranberry flavored water if there is too much "bite" for ya....

Have you used tren e before? or tren ace?
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Dan that is kinda how I thought about running it.

I have never used Tren E but feel I will like it better due to less injections. I have ran Tren Ace twice first at 100mg EOD for 6 weeks then again at 100MG ED for 8 weeks.

Both times I loved it, had the normal sides, sleeplesness, night sweats but nothing I could not get over cause the gains were nice. I felt I got very strong and alot harder on TrenA/Prop at 100mg of eash ED for 8 weeks, but DAMN too many sticks for me to go that route again...lol Call me a sissy if you want
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I will agree with Dan 100%.

Gotta have the test run longer than the tren, crashing off tren is hell. The test in your system will soften the blow.


My last PCT with Test/tren/tbol/var.

100mg clomid ED for 2 months
40mg nolvadex ED 4 weeks, 20mg for next 4 weeks.
15mg Sibutramine ED 4 weeks

I also used HCG EOD throughout cycle at 300IUs until 2 weeks after last inject.

I found the sibutramine to really help with the post-tren blues and sore nips.
I will always use it PCT now.
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I worte this response on a different thread, but I'll post it here.

Let's just say it is a 14 weeker.

The way I normally run it is weeks 1-14 Test E/ weeks 3-12 Tren E or/weeks 1-4 Tbol or Dbol/ weeks 5-14 Anavar.

I always run the Test 200mgs higher ew than the tren dosage So, for example, if I run test at 500mg ew, the tren is 300mgs ew.

I've run this cycle four times at varying dosages and lengths, it has been by far the most productive one for me as far as lean mass gains and strength.

But, everyone reacts differently, so obviously what works for me may not work for you. Hope that helps, bro.
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By the way, I agree with "Dan" about the shut down...hence the Tbol (or Dbol if you prefer) at the begining of the cycle. I always like to stagger things a bit, but I sometimes get a little "overwhelmed" if I start Tbol/Dbol, Test, and Tren all at the same time. Either way, I'm still gonna be one Angry SOB , but it usually doesn't come on as strong when I stagger them.
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