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Old 09-02-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default To bridge or not to bridge...

...that is the question.

Here is what I'm trying to figure out:

I am going to start a 12 week Test cycle (500mg/wk) in the next few weeks. The only thing I may add would be D-Bol (25 mg ed) weeks 1-4 to help kickstart, but maybe not. Either way, a simple first cycle. I will use HCG throughout (if I can find it, lol) and Nolva for PCT, as recommended by some knowledgeable bros here...the advice is much appreciated

I would like to be able to cut down a bit after this initial mass cycle...I don't want to be bloated for next beach season, lol. I was thinking of maybe Anavar with a low dose of Test to help shed some fat and improve vascularity. Laying out a plan for that is where I need some input from you guys.

Assuming I start the Test cycle in the middle of Sept. and run for 12 weeks, then PCT for 4...that puts me at the first part of Jan. I'm sure I would need to lay off AAS for at least 4 to 6 weeks after PCT...putting me in the middle of Feb. Then running Var and moderate Test for 10 weeks and PCT for 4...I'm now at the end of May, at the earliest...prime beach time

Does that sound like the way to go or should I simply lower the dose of Test at the end of my initial 12 weeks, jump right on the Var for 10, and then PCT at the end of it all? This is what you ol' salty vets would call a bridge, correct??

Sorry for writing a book here...I just like to be organized and plan shit out. Thanks for any input!
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: To bridge or not to bridge...

First cycle then bridging unless your 60 NO. Your way to new to even think about bridging. Sprinters get tired fast and have to stop, take you time you will last longer.

If you can stand it after you PCT stay off 10-12 weeks. I use to stay on 12 off 16. Just watch your diet, gears isn't an excuse to be a fat ass.
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Old 09-02-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: To bridge or not to bridge...

Fair enough...thanks for the no-nonsense reply. Just trying to look at all the options. I'm not a fat ass...but not single digit bf% either.

I'll do the Test cycle and stay off for a few months before gearing up again. I'll know more about how to run the next one by then anyway.
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Hope you didnt get the impression I was being a prick.

Take the test and maybe d-bol take a nice break. Then consider a nice test eq maybe a little winnie to harden you up. Also some ECA or fat burn product that you like.
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Yeah AM's advice is the way to go! When I did my first cycle I was dying to stop at week 12, just because the pumps. I couldn't even shower without my arms getting pumped, it really got old. Thats just something that takes getting used to. It doesn't bother me anymore. I promise though around 10-12 weeks you will be ready to lay off for a while. I would just do my pct and then if you want to drop some bf and are set on using something, do a 6 week cycle of prop @ 100 mg eod, drop your cal intake a little and do some cardio 5 days a week. You will be surprised at how much better you will look and feel! The prop isn't a must have but it will keep you from losing any muscle. Thats just my oppinion. Whatever you decide good luck bro and enjoy your cycle the first is always the best.

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Hope you didnt get the impression I was being a prick.

Take the test and maybe d-bol take a nice break. Then consider a nice test eq maybe a little winnie to harden you up. Also some ECA or fat burn product that you like.
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Nah, man. It's cool...I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Nothing wrong with getting straight to the point

The test, eq, winnie cycle you mentioned was something I was considering for my next bulker in about a year...was going to start off that way but wiser heads around here prevailed and I decided to do just the test.
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Yeah AM's advice is the way to go! When I did my first cycle I was dying to stop at week 12, just because the pumps. I couldn't even shower without my arms getting pumped, it really got old. Thats just something that takes getting used to. It doesn't bother me anymore. I promise though around 10-12 weeks you will be ready to lay off for a while. I would just do my pct and then if you want to drop some bf and are set on using something, do a 6 week cycle of prop @ 100 mg eod, drop your cal intake a little and do some cardio 5 days a week. You will be surprised at how much better you will look and feel! The prop isn't a must have but it will keep you from losing any muscle. Thats just my oppinion. Whatever you decide good luck bro and enjoy your cycle the first is always the best.

peace...jca1...

Yeah, man...I'll probably be ready to lay off myself. I just don't want to lose much muscle trying to lean up after the Test cycle. I have been researching Var and thought it might be a good option for that. I'll just get through this first cycle and PCT and cross that other bridge (no pun intended, lol) when I get there.

On a different note...how did your Sooners look yesterday? My "Dawgs" laid a whoopin' on their in-state rivals, OSU.
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On a different note...how did your Sooners look yesterday? My "Dawgs" laid a whoopin' on their in-state rivals, OSU.

OH hell, we killed em but it was north texas. Next week is Miami, that will be the test. I normally always root for the big 12, but I was glade OSU got their asses kicked yesterday!
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OH hell, we killed em but it was north texas. Next week is Miami, that will be the test. I normally always root for the big 12, but I was glade OSU got their asses kicked yesterday!
Cool man. I would love to see OU and Texas both undefeated going into their game. I gotta pull for the Horns in that one, though...I have been in Georgia for a while now but I was born and raised in Texas. I always pull for Texas...unless they ever play Georgia, lol. Oklahoma has had a Hell of a program for a while, though...I hope they have a good season.

Damn...I'm getting way off topic here...I fuckin' love college football, man!
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Damn...I'm getting way off topic here...I fuckin' love college football, man!
Hijacking your own thread?

Seriously since it's your 1st cycle, concentrate on your diet and your training and doing your cycle right, instead of trying to figure out how to bridge. Do one quality cycle and do your PCT.

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