Bread n' butter

[Achilles_Bane]

A drunken fool typed a foolish post a few hours ago. Please disregard.

[rizz]

Originally Posted by Achilles_Bane

I'm fittin to make my first cycle the good ol' bread and butter. 10 weeks of test, and deca, 6 weeks of dianabol right up front. I'm gonna go on about 4 weeks of nolva for a pct If i need more i'll get more. whatthefuckever. Sorry this ain't eloquantly written as i'm kinda fucked up at the moment. Clifton, get up with me as I think nectar labs is my sheezy. I'm looking at you dudes right now.

What doses you plan on using? Why so many drugs if it's your 1st cycle? You know you'll grow like a weed on just Test alone.... Plus it's cheaper, and if you get side effects, you'll know what drug is causing it.... Well, that's my take on it anyway....

rizz

[tiggerizme]

is that drunkeness typing up there or what?? I wasn't even sure if there was a question attached to that.

[IFIWAS]

I would advise just taking Test as a first cycle, but thats just me, bout 400-500mgs a week on Mondays and Thursdays. And if you "are alittle fucked up right now" you may want to wait till you can get up enough disipline to stay not "fucked up" during the entire cycle before you start....again just my opinion, take ot for the 1 cent its worth.

[FIVE_8]

Originally Posted by rizz

What doses you plan on using? Why so many drugs if it's your 1st cycle? You know you'll grow like a weed on just Test alone.... Plus it's cheaper, and if you get side effects, you'll know what drug is causing it.... Well, that's my take on it anyway....

rizz

w0rd to Rizz. If i were you i would run 16 weeks of 500 mg test e or c. Easy, cheap, fun, low sides (for em at least). If you feel it a must maybe throw in a mild oral or low dose of dbol for the 1st 4-6 weeks (20-25 mg ED). Fuck the deca (you will wana use that when your joints are killin) and 10 weeks is a tease bro. Stay on longer; you keep more, you get stronger, look better, feel better and you can recovery great w/ proper PCT and HCG...just my .02

[Achilles_Bane]

Yipes....

I wrote that a couple of hours ago with no restraint. Took a nap, all better now. I don't get like that more than once every two weeks. Alcohol was a problem two years ago, but not anymore. I just had to take advantage of the wife being out of the house for the evening. I do hereby solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that i will not post while intoxicated again.

So, The original plan was that I was going to get two 10ml vials of test E, a bottle or two of winny to drink (jk) and some nolva. I would run the test for ten weeks and toss in the winny tabs half way through.

I've been considering and considering and considering what stack I should run
to get my feet wet... I trust you bros to give good advice though and if youz think that the original plan was better then I'll go with that. Which is not to say that I won't consider Bread and Butter in the future.

So 250mg test Monday and Thursday for weeks 1-10, winny ('cuz i want to)
50mg ED for week 5-10. Nolvadex 40mg ED for 4 weeks after the cycle ends and as needed during the cycle for sides.

Better?

[Achilles_Bane]

BTW thanks bros for taking the time to add your 2cc's it IS definitely appreciated.

[Cronk]

That cycle should work well for you. 500mg test e for a beginner sounds right. I'm not a winny fan myself. Probably not neccessary for your first cycle but hey, run it if you wish. I personally don't get much from winny if I'm not pretty lean already. And it makes my joints hurt. So much so that it bothers my training.

Please let us know how that goes for you.

[Achilles_Bane]

sure will, I'm here for the long haul.

I don't know why I'm so attracted to stanzolol, I just am. I feel that I've just gotta try some. I'VE GOTTA!!!!!!

[MadManiac13]

Winny is over-rated, IMO. It does help me maintain while cutting, but the joint problems are not worth it. I can't afford to have joint injuries, so why bother.

By the way, these guys are right. Run 10-12 Weeks of Test E at 500mgs a week. It's a good starter cycle and if you are eating and training preoperly, it'll be really productive. Trust me bro, most people here are talking from experience. I wish I would have had this kind of info available when I started. Peace!