Interesting conversation

[RxGenes]

We've all read the articles about how training/drug methods range all over the world. Some parts of the world prefer this for x amount of weeks, this kind of training, etc. I am friends with a foreign born female pro and was talking to her trainer the other day(also foreign). We were just talking about my show coming up and he asked what I was taking. I told him prop and eq right now, gonna add winny a little later. The very first thing out of his mouth was "You don't like cyp ?" Now I guess the American way of thinking about long esters is to use them for mass in the offseason, but for him he looked a little puzzled as to why I chose prop. Was just kind of different to hear that that's what maybe would be used in other parts of the world for shows....

[tiggerizme]

Did he elaborate at all on the resoning behind using the longer esthers for comps? It seems to me and all that I have read the closer to the show the shorter the esther. I don't compete but to me this would be more sensible.

[RxGenes]

No, I guess I wasn't really receptive to what he had to say, lol, jk. No, he didn't say anything about it after that. Its still far enough out (the show) that maybe he ment for me to take now.....then maybe change to prop as we got closer. That is not necessarily unheard of though; to take susp or long ester at beginning and then harden it all up at show time approaches. I'll ask him more about it tomarrow, I just thought it was a different perspective.

I remember reading an article about europeon drug choices once. This conversation made me think of the clip

[Drifter]

That would be intresting to follow up on . Keep us informed with that please

[The Anonymizer]

i'm watching this thread as well

[RxGenes]

Sorry to leave everyone hangin on this. I was on vacation all last week. (I'll be putting some pictures up later). Since I've been back I haven't been at the gym at thier time. I'll catch up with him in the next couple days and post back.....again, sorry fellas

[RxGenes]

Ok fellas, finally got everyone's answer, mine included.

I asked him about it today and his response was that up until you are 30 days out from competition to use cypionate. At that point you switch to prop to get rid of the water bloat. I am too tall for this sport so he was suggesting it to help add some size to my frame before the show. Actually, that's not true. I'm not too tall, just not big enough for my height

[tiggerizme]

So longer esthers until 30 days out of comp then shorter esthers. Hmm. Any thoughts on this issue fellas?

[beantown]

my training partner goes enanthate all the way up but then 2 weeks out he adds in suspension while the enanth. is winding down, this ups the dose of test and the suspension really goes to work. suspension and masteron and you CUT.

[Dr X]

Originally Posted by tiggerizme

So longer esthers until 30 days out of comp then shorter esthers. Hmm. Any thoughts on this issue fellas?

I think it's a good idea myself. Peaking to early is always a killer and 30 days sounds short but it's actually a long time and certanily more then enough to dump water. Besides I would think it would help to hold on to some of that hard earned muscle and minimaze wasting. Jus my 02 cents. Also arent' the rules significantly different over there?