GH use for long term. I have questions.

[short1]

OK - I am familiar with both males and females using GH for 12 weeks or so in relation to competition.

My questions are in regard to long term use for both men and women in regards to longevity, fat loss, etc. By long term, I mean at least a year, maybe more - with use on a daily basis.

1. Is dosage dependent on weight, or some other factor?
2. What are side effects, both short and long term?
3. What kind of results can one expect (after 3-5 months) with good diet and regular weight/cardio regimine?
4. I have been told that dosages should be split between morning and afternoon - no shot at night because the human body produces it's own GH at that time. Is this true? Why the split dose?
5. I have also been told to take shots on empty stomach about an hour before meals. Is this true and why?


Those are all the questions I can think of right now...any additional information is appreciated. Thanks!

[The Anonymizer]

Since nobody has answered this question yet let me step in here.

1)dosage is somewhat dependent on weight, but i think more dependent on age and sex. women get the same results off of less iu's per day than men, and older people get the same results off of less iu's per day than younger people. you'll experience better results off of GH if you're over 30 years old.

2)as far as bad side effects, your wrist pain will get pretty bad but i've heard it goes away after about 6 months of continuous use. wrist pain is the only real (and very annoying) side effect i've noticed. GH actually retains water inside the joints, which is good for the joint, but stretches the tendons around it which gives you a constant dull pain. other than that, all the other side effects are good sides such as fat loss, muscle gain, increased libido and mood, better skin tone, etc.

3)everyone is different but refer to answer #1. fat loss is usually to be expected and the momentum of it picks up the longer you're on GH. most people experience better, tighter (and thicker) skin after 3 months of GH and a better wellbeing. people that only use GH for 12 weeks at a time are stopping right before the good effects really kick in.

4)alot of people believe you should split up the dosage because GH is very short acting (only active for 2-2.5 hrs after injection) and they think theyre getting longer activity if they do it twice a day. i believe this is bullshit. GH has a shorter half life than Dbol. if you only took Dbol twice a day you probably wouldnt get that good of results. I believe the best time to take GH is right before you workout. GH will put your body in a fatburning state by lowering insulin production, and increasing thyroid turnover (T4 to T3). it has also been theorized to initiate hyperplasia...and i believe this is true (it makes sense). so what better time to take advantage of all these effects than when you're working out? GH is very anticatabolic and working out itself is a catabolic action. i believe GH will give you an edge over time by preventing you from burning muscle during your workout...and then what do you have left to burn?? FAT!

5)empty stomach is due to it counteracting insulin. when insulin rises GH drops....but i think thats referring to natural GH production. i dont really see the point in having to take it on an empty stomach....unless i'm really missing something here.

[short1]

wow! thank you so much! you've answered all my questions, and it's much appreciated.

my boyfriend is going to be 50 next year and he's decided to start gh. he has enough on hand to take 2iu's a day for a year, plus enough for me to take 1iu a day for a year if I want to.

I haven't decided yet if I'll be taking it (I'm 33). All the information available regarding women and gh is conflicting. Especially on the bb sites. those women take it for competition and I've seen doses as high as 6 iu's a day for some of them. yikes.

[The Anonymizer]

what brand does he have on hand? remember, the shelf life of some GH after reconstitution is significantly shorter than others. certain things extend the life, like using bacteriostatic water instead of the sterile water that comes in the kit....but ultimately it comes down to the purity of the GH and if there are any preservatives added. the higher IU bottles arent as efficient as the smaller IU bottles. i guess what i'm saying is i dont think a 10iu Jino bottle at 2iu per day is going to very potent by the 5th day. if i were taking 2iu/day i would try to get some GH that comes in 4-6iu bottles instead.

Also, preconstituted GH like Nutropin, Humatrope, Saizen, etc. last alot longer because the preservatives.

[short1]

Originally Posted by The Anonymizer

what brand does he have on hand? remember, the shelf life of some GH after reconstitution is significantly shorter than others. certain things extend the life, like using bacteriostatic water instead of the sterile water that comes in the kit....but ultimately it comes down to the purity of the GH and if there are any preservatives added. the higher IU bottles arent as efficient as the smaller IU bottles. i guess what i'm saying is i dont think a 10iu Jino bottle at 2iu per day is going to very potent by the 5th day. if i were taking 2iu/day i would try to get some GH that comes in 4-6iu bottles instead.

Also, preconstituted GH like Nutropin, Humatrope, Saizen, etc. last alot longer because the preservatives.

these are the generic blue top - 10iu vials. powder. i will have to reconstitute with bac water. the feedback on them has been that they are better than jinos. since I've never used either, I wouldn't know if this is true.

[filthyr]

You definitely do not want to eat 1 hour/after before or Gh inject. I believe
it can cause a spike in blood sugar and cause a diabetic type reaction.
Ive heard it can be very nasty when this happens!

[Dr X]

Originally Posted by filthyr

You definitely do not want to eat 1 hour/after before or Gh inject. I believe
it can cause a spike in blood sugar and cause a diabetic type reaction.
Ive heard it can be very nasty when this happens!

So are you supposed to forgo a PWO shake??

[IFIWAS]

Originally Posted by filthyr

You definitely do not want to eat 1 hour/after before or Gh inject. I believe
it can cause a spike in blood sugar and cause a diabetic type reaction.
Ive heard it can be very nasty when this happens!

Eating an hour before or after also can break down the GH and render it useless.....again I am not a professional teacher or anything and not a pro GH user but have read this MANY times.

[Jerzey]

I suggest EOD for long term use (as a woman). I had almost no bloat that way. ED I was dying at just 1.5 IU's, I went up to 2. I don't see a point for over 2 IU's for a woman. I honestly think 1 is fine if daily or 2 IU's EOD. Studies show that EOD long term worked just as well for fat burning/longevity effects. If you were trying to build with it, that's another story. I know guys who run 3 with great results and other who run 10-12

Personally, if I were building I'd go with IGF over GH, but for longevity/fat burning I think GH is great. I wouldn't use it again until I'm over 30, I honestly think I got better results with a good fat burner, diet and cardio. Definitely made my skin, hair, nails really nice. My nails were real hard and my hair grew fast.

Be careful of the thyroid issues, because I got them. GH is known to suppress your thyroid and women are much more sensitive then men. I was on T3 also as I have always had a slow metabolism but 3 specialists (and one was an endocrinologist who specializes in only thyroid and metabolism) all agreed the GH had to do with it. Just educate yourself first, do some research and read up on it before you make up your mind how much you want to do, etc.

I do believe age is a huge factor and that is why I won't touch it again for quite some time...

FYI - I tried Fitropin (192aa) and Jin (191aa).

[filthyr]

[quote=Dr X]So are you supposed to forgo a PWO shake??[/QUOTE

]I try to get up at least one hour early to take GH shot. Ill try to go back to bed and get up 1 hour later, I eat oatmeal,berries, and whey protein. Wait 1half hour, 1and half mile run, then lift. A whey protein shake follows...

I was warned early on about blood sugar levels with GH.