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Old 01-15-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Anti-Hairloss product?how do pros keep hair?

What could you take to prevent hair loss if you are on a cycle with dbol,testcyp,winstrol ect. ... proviron is a good anti estrogen but also contributes to hairloss.
d-bol and winny(test) have a high convertion to DHT that causes hair loss.

What could you take while on a cycle to combat this?

how do these pros keep there hair?

I know "propecia"(probably spelled wrong) is one drug. But I dont want to re-grow hair after its gone.
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I use finistride, works for me. Also high doses of saw palmetto are of great benefit. I'm not sure how others use it and I'm not really prone to hair loss but some gear does work over the old hair line.
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genetics and gear choice is you best hope. Finastride is only going to help with non DHT based AAS (test, d-bol). If you are going to use winny, proviron, primo you will have to use a topical DHT inhibitor such as minoxidil, nizoral shampoo may help also.
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genetics and gear choice is you best hope. Finastride is only going to help with non DHT based AAS (test, d-bol). If you are going to use winny, proviron, primo you will have to use a topical DHT inhibitor such as minoxidil, nizoral shampoo may help also.
this is exactly correct, i'd like to add that a spironolactone topic works the best because its not just anti-DHT, its an anti-androgen....so works topically for stuff like Fina, halo, anadrol, etc. here is a recipe:

Make your own Spironolactone cream. Sprio is a very effective and proven anti androgen at the scalp and will work with any androgen and not just DHT.
This is a re-post as I have continued to get pm's about spiro.
Buy some Dermovan cream off the net.
Buy some spironolactone(aldactone) off the net or ask your doctor. He will give you a scrip for some if you tell him what you are doing.

Now for every 20cc of cream mix in 600mg of crushed spironolactone. I use an electric coffee grinder.
You can heat the cream up for a few seconds in the micro and suck it up with a syringe.

This makes a 3% spiro cream and this percentage is more than enough.
Dab it on your finger tips and apply it to the receeding areas. You can heat it up for a few seconds in the micro and or wet your fingers for better application. It goes on well and doesn't smell bad as does the spiro in alcohol based creams.
It drys well and you can't see it. It's like a "moose" or very light gel.
Put it on before bed and or in the am.

Use Nizoral 2% shampoo every other day as well and you will have a great hair loss prevention plan. I have yet to loose a single hair since adopting this plan.
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That's a good idea. Just don't let your significant other use the coffee grinder! Mortar and pestle are cheap...
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very interesting. I use pro viron during cyc. and never have lost any hair, but sometimes my scalp just flakes out...could it possibly be this is the reason?
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this is exactly correct, i'd like to add that a spironolactone topic works the best because its not just anti-DHT, its an anti-androgen....so works topically for stuff like Fina, halo, anadrol, etc. here is a recipe:

Make your own Spironolactone cream. Sprio is a very effective and proven anti androgen at the scalp and will work with any androgen and not just DHT.
This is a re-post as I have continued to get pm's about spiro.
Buy some Dermovan cream off the net.
Buy some spironolactone(aldactone) off the net or ask your doctor. He will give you a scrip for some if you tell him what you are doing.

Now for every 20cc of cream mix in 600mg of crushed spironolactone. I use an electric coffee grinder.
You can heat the cream up for a few seconds in the micro and suck it up with a syringe.

This makes a 3% spiro cream and this percentage is more than enough.
Dab it on your finger tips and apply it to the receeding areas. You can heat it up for a few seconds in the micro and or wet your fingers for better application. It goes on well and doesn't smell bad as does the spiro in alcohol based creams.
It drys well and you can't see it. It's like a "moose" or very light gel.
Put it on before bed and or in the am.

Use Nizoral 2% shampoo every other day as well and you will have a great hair loss prevention plan. I have yet to loose a single hair since adopting this plan.
Anon, what are your thoughts on this regeimn soley as a preventive measure? Let me explain, I am 41, have never had any issues with hairl loss regardless of what I run for AAS. I do currently use nizoral shampoo but it is for scalp issues. I'd like ot keep my hair forever and what you have listed here may be a good way to help achieve that
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Anon, what are your thoughts on this regeimn soley as a preventive measure? Let me explain, I am 41, have never had any issues with hairl loss regardless of what I run for AAS. I do currently use nizoral shampoo but it is for scalp issues. I'd like ot keep my hair forever and what you have listed here may be a good way to help achieve that
i think its great as a preventative measure, but it does leave a residue on the scalp after a while so a good deep cleansing shampoo (maybe tea tree/jojoba oil) might be a good idea once a week.

I've recently switched to J/A/S/O/N brand natural Tea Tree shampoo and conditioner and my scalp is loving it....they sell them at Vitamin Shoppe (www.vitaminshoppe.com)
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I use finistride, works for me. Also high doses of saw palmetto are of great benefit. I'm not sure how others use it and I'm not really prone to hair loss but some gear does work over the old hair line.
Saw palmetto will help keep your hair? (i know its not the best product for that ,normally used for prostate health)
Finistride does really help huh? herd about that stuff before
Are there any types of gear that wont mess with your hair at all? I heard deca is harmless to the hairline. is that true?

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