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Old 04-25-2006, 02:42 AM
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I am trying this with the goal of cutting up and gain a little mass/density

I posted a similar post on another board and all I got were "your cycle sucks, not enough of anything" repsonse. Y'all seem a little more seasoned, and I am looking to try something different than the typical gram of test and 600mg of that cycle.

I am hoping for a synergistic effect from the listed compounds. I am trying to stay under a gram/wk of total gear and I will probably run the cycle over 20wks. I am open for suggestions, particularly with the non-steroid compounds, but the steroid doses will remain the same for at least 50 days.

50mg/ed test
25mg/ed EQ
25mg/ed tren
25mg/ed masterone
50-150mcg/ed T3..pyramid cycling starting day 5
50-200mcg/ed Clen...linear cycling 4wk on 2 off started 2 weeks prior to cycle
20mcg/ed lr3-igf1 2 months on 1 month off starting wk 4
10mg/ed nolvadex began 1 week before cycle
5mg/ed aromasin starting day 5
???mcg/??? dostinex... will have it shortly, not sure how to incoporate it. I routinely have problems with prolactin.. worse on tren.

This began on the 18th.
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Are you competing? Seems like alot to me.
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while I personally don't like your cycle, I don't think "it sucks" either. I prefer to keep things simple. I'd drop the EQ and and masteron and simply bump up the tren. I've used all three and the two former compounds don't compare to the results that I've personally seen from a tren/test cycle. If your diet/cardio/liftin is on point, it'll turn you into twisted steel.

Guess you're looking to experiment a bit here though. At the very least, I'd drop the eq and bump up the tren and masteron to 50mg/ed.

As for the prolactin probs, you could also throw in some B6. It's been shown to decrease prolactin levels while at the same time increasing growth hormone levels.

Either way, good luck with the cycle. I'd be very interested in see the results if you stick with it.
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Ego isn't this the one that you combined all of the different injectable compounds??
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while I personally don't like your cycle, I don't think "it sucks" either. I prefer to keep things simple. I'd drop the EQ and and masteron and simply bump up the tren. I've used all three and the two former compounds don't compare to the results that I've personally seen from a tren/test cycle. If your diet/cardio/liftin is on point, it'll turn you into twisted steel.

Guess you're looking to experiment a bit here though. At the very least, I'd drop the eq and bump up the tren and masteron to 50mg/ed.

As for the prolactin probs, you could also throw in some B6. It's been shown to decrease prolactin levels while at the same time increasing growth hormone levels.

Either way, good luck with the cycle. I'd be very interested in see the results if you stick with it.

I'm with you. I can put 3 cutting agents together and it couldn't compare to just using tren. That's me though.
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well the guys here are the same guys that answered your post on ssb
to be honest after giving some thought to what your doing,i am intrested in learning how it turns out for you.
thats a hell of a t3 dose 150mcg!!!!
what are your starting stats man?
even if you ate at mac ds 6 times a day i think you would still lose fat on that dose of t3!
have you run igf before?i am asking because i am wondering if you find 20mcg a good dose?i ran 50mcg and liked it in my pct i will run it at 100mcg daily.
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Are you competing? Seems like alot to me.
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I'd drop the EQ and and masteron and simply bump up the tren. I've used all three and the two former compounds don't compare to the results that I've personally seen from a tren/test cycle. If your diet/cardio/liftin is on point, it'll turn you into twisted steel.

Guess you're looking to experiment a bit here though. At the very least, I'd drop the eq and bump up the tren and masteron to 50mg/ed.
I have a lot of experience with tren and I have since developed a love/hate relationship with it. It seems everytime I use it the sides get worse and worse...like my tolerance weakens. It does cut me up and I have seen results at 50mg eod. Looks like most people run it 75mg eod. 25mg ed might be a little low but I think I'll get something out of it.

With the EQ, I am waiting for accumulation of the compound. In a few weeks, my body fat should be decreasing rapidly while blood levels of EQ will be increasing. 25mg ed will lead to a consistent blood level of around 650mg. I am hoping for good vascularity, just as I am getting ripped.

This is what people used to do before the UGs started making 600mg/ml:
"As an undecylenate ester, boldenone needs only be injected every week (staying active well over 4 weeks), but because the preparations come in 25 mg/ml, users most often opt for 25-50 mg every day to every other day. A use of 300-400 mg per week seems to be the normal recommendation."

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Ego isn't this the one that you combined all of the different injectable compounds??
Yes, I made a bottle of
50mg/ml Test E
25mg/ml EQ
25mg/ml Tren
25mg/ml Mast
I have 50ml total gonna run this til it's gone the re-evaluate the second 2/3 of the cycle.

I might keep the same compounds just add test prop and bold prop? Still rollin around with it. Any thoughts tigger?
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I can put 3 cutting agents together and it couldn't compare to just using tren. That's me though
Tren alone cuts the hell out me. Strength increase is ridiculous.. I am a big fan. My problem is I can't sleep, I am a moody bastard, I start lactating...no matter how much b6 or bromo I take and I start to hold water...I am guessing from the prolactin. I am still keeping it in my cycle, but I def going to keep the doses low and run dostinex and t3 to help combat the prolactin issue.
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well the guys here are the same guys that answered your post on ssb
to be honest after giving some thought to what your doing,i am intrested in learning how it turns out for you.
thats a hell of a t3 dose 150mcg!!!!
what are your starting stats man?
even if you ate at mac ds 6 times a day i think you would still lose fat on that dose of t3!
have you run igf before?i am asking because i am wondering if you find 20mcg a good dose?i ran 50mcg and liked it in my pct i will run it at 100mcg daily.
Sup buddy, thanks for chiming in.
I am thinking of running the t3 like this:
wk1: 50mcg
wk2: 75mcg
wk3: 100mcg
wk4: 125mcg
wk5: 150mcg
wk6: 150mcg
wk7: 100mcg
wk8: 50mcg
Take 4 weeks off and repeat.
I've run cytomel before at 75mcg, I was a little anxious but I didn't lose too much weight, but I only ran it 3 weeks. What do you suggest?

I have run igf before. I tried 40mcg for a month and ~11mcg for about a month. I noticed slightly more pump with the 40mcg but I was bulking. When I ran the 11mcg I was cutting and it really seemed to help shred me up and hold muscle. I'll try the mean, 20mcg, along with the t3 and see what happens. What do you think?

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well man personally i was shocked at the effect 50mcg of t3 had on my body i was actually losing weight too fast and i was worried that some had to be muscle
i suppose we all react differently,what brand are you running?i used ag-guys liquid t3.
the only thing i wana comment is that your dropping from 50mcg to nothing which sounds dangerous for the tyroid,i tappered of 50mcg like this 25mcg for a week then 12.5mcg for a week.
as far as the igf man i am not very experienced i only ran it once and i did find on 50mcg i had to eat all the time other wise i would get dizzy and my vision went blurry(i assume its due to insulin levels because as soon as carbs were eaten this went away)so let me know how you find 20mcg cause if its good at this dose its a hell of a lot cheaper this way
seeing that your on a cutter would you not think of adding gh into the mix?
may be i am forgetfull but did you post your stats before man,if not what are they?

@longhorn lol thats not alot of gear(well to me any way )it looks alot more than it is,hes only using 50mg test per day=350mg per week.
the only thing he uses in a large dose is the t3.in fact considering the t3 the anabolics is very low.
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well man personally i was shocked at the effect 50mcg of t3 had on my body i was actually losing weight too fast and i was worried that some had to be muscle
i suppose we all react differently,what brand are you running?i used ag-guys liquid t3.
the only thing i wana comment is that your dropping from 50mcg to nothing which sounds dangerous for the tyroid,i tappered of 50mcg like this 25mcg for a week then 12.5mcg for a week.
as far as the igf man i am not very experienced i only ran it once and i did find on 50mcg i had to eat all the time other wise i would get dizzy and my vision went blurry(i assume its due to insulin levels because as soon as carbs were eaten this went away)so let me know how you find 20mcg cause if its good at this dose its a hell of a lot cheaper this way
seeing that your on a cutter would you not think of adding gh into the mix?
may be i am forgetfull but did you post your stats before man,if not what are they?

@longhorn lol thats not alot of gear(well to me any way )it looks alot more than it is,hes only using 50mg test per day=350mg per week.
the only thing he uses in a large dose is the t3.in fact considering the t3 the anabolics is very low.
I am 6'2, started this at 210. I was high 230s at the begining of the year. I have already cut a bunch...still not lean enough.

Thanks for the advice on the T3, I'll do that. I have 200mcg/ml liothyronine sodium from chemone...great flavoring by the way. I guess I'll use an insulin pin to pull out the 12.5mcg.

Yeah, I am not going to go all out on the IGF, just low doses for longer periods, and see how that goes. I am going to try to consitently hit calves... but I always say that and then I give up after a few days of painful limping.

GH is my next venture... maybe I'll run for 6mo before my next cycle.

Thanks bro!
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