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Old 07-17-2006, 05:33 PM
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Default 16 week plan for all workout "aids",,,comments needed!!

Alright heres a little info about myself.

Im in my early 20's and am 5'9 192 about 14%bf. I worked out my whole life due to sports and begain dieting correctly in sept 03 and added in aas slightly later...

My goal for these next few months is to get as ripped as possible w/o dropping below 190lbs!! I have a HUGE opportunity coming up in Jan ,,,I HAVE to be ready for as it could be a huge break for me w/ the career Im attempting...

Heres my plan for the next 16 weeks. Any critiques/comments are more then welcome! My diet and training will be perfect. Well training will at least though my diet is pretty damn good...

1-14 deca 300mg wk (joints)
1-16 test e 600mg wk
1-10 tren e 400mg wk
1-2 dnp 400mg ed
1-3 sdrol 30mg ed
3-6 igf 60mcg ed
7-8 dnp 400mg ed
7-9 sdrol 30mg ed
10-14 igf 60mcg ed

Nolva used throughout at 15mg ed,,,Hoping to change to 12.5mg ed aromasin if my funds work out...

If I can afford it then Ill run more IGF 4-6 weeks after week 14....Once again I hope to be shredded by Jan.

Suggestions appreciated!!
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:31 PM
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Ok, now don't take this the wrong way, I'm not Flamming you, but WTF are you doing? Why do you feel like you need to use all those compounds at once? It makes no sense, and is a waste of money bro.... Keep it simple, no need to use a "Traffic Jam" of drugs in a cycle..... Let's say your gains are AMAZING.... How would you even know which drug/drugs made those gains amazing? You won't, cause you got a traffic jam of drugs floating in your system..... More drugs doesn't mean better gains bro.... Keep it simple, and you'll do better, and "KNOW BETTER" which is key..... Like with me, I know Tren works great for me.... How do I know? Cause I've done Tren Only cycles, and know what it can do for me..... See my point? Keep your cycles down to 3 drugs Maximum, and you'll know what's going on with your body better..... Does this make sense to you?

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ya that makes sense,,,however none of these drugs are new to me w/ the exception of IGF

ive used all these compounds a couple times each and know how my body responds to everything...

thx for your opinion though,,,

BTW - its not really that many compounds,,,,just a test/tren base with an oral added in when im on dnp...
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Alright heres a little info about myself.

Im in my early 20's and am 5'9 192 about 14%bf. I worked out my whole life due to sports and begain dieting correctly in sept 03 and added in aas slightly later...

My goal for these next few months is to get as ripped as possible w/o dropping below 190lbs!! I have a HUGE opportunity coming up in Jan ,,,I HAVE to be ready for as it could be a huge break for me w/ the career Im attempting...

Heres my plan for the next 16 weeks. Any critiques/comments are more then welcome! My diet and training will be perfect. Well training will at least though my diet is pretty damn good...

1-14 deca 300mg wk (joints)
1-16 test e 600mg wk
1-10 tren e 400mg wk
1-2 dnp 400mg ed
1-3 sdrol 30mg ed
3-6 igf 60mcg ed
7-8 dnp 400mg ed
7-9 sdrol 30mg ed
10-14 igf 60mcg ed

Nolva used throughout at 15mg ed,,,Hoping to change to 12.5mg ed aromasin if my funds work out...

If I can afford it then Ill run more IGF 4-6 weeks after week 14....Once again I hope to be shredded by Jan.

Suggestions appreciated!!
One of the worst cycles I have had the privaledge of reading. DNP while taking Deca? Your poor body is going to go "WTF is this guy doing to me"?

In simple terms- keep it simple stupid. First decide what you want to do- either bulk or cut. But trying to do both in one cycle is nuts. I cant seem to figure out what this current cycle you posted is even trying to accomplish??
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Ok, now don't take this the wrong way, I'm not Flamming you, but WTF are you doing? Why do you feel like you need to use all those compounds at once? It makes no sense, and is a waste of money bro.... Keep it simple, no need to use a "Traffic Jam" of drugs in a cycle..... Let's say your gains are AMAZING.... How would you even know which drug/drugs made those gains amazing? You won't, cause you got a traffic jam of drugs floating in your system..... More drugs doesn't mean better gains bro.... Keep it simple, and you'll do better, and "KNOW BETTER" which is key..... Like with me, I know Tren works great for me.... How do I know? Cause I've done Tren Only cycles, and know what it can do for me..... See my point? Keep your cycles down to 3 drugs Maximum, and you'll know what's going on with your body better..... Does this make sense to you?

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Me too- and love the straight tren cycles- I drop BF like crazy for some reason.
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This isn't a cycle bro.Do some more research!
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alright guys,,,ive been giving advice on cycles for years now,,,

I honestly dont see whats soooo complex about this one,,, thx for the comments anyway,,,Ill go ahead a drop the deca....

Just a simple test/tren base with bursts of sdrol and dnp throughout....

Goal is to go from 193 (as of this morning) with abs barely visible,,, to a shredded 190-195. A recomping cycle if you will....

Ive used dnp/test/tren all at the same time before with insane results....just wanted some advice on when to use the IGF...

ive talked to a few local competetive bb'ers and they helped me w/ this outline...im gonna give it a shot unless someone can explain why its sooo bad???
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OK,,,let me switch it up on yall,,,

Heres what I have and would like to put to use in the next few months...

4mg igf
unlimited test e
unlimited tren e
about 38 250mg dnp caps from D
enough sdrol to run 30mg ed for 3 wks 2x ( i love this compound)

Anyone wanna throw out a 14-16 wk plan incorporating all these compounds??

thx for being honest w/ me here guys,,,im fairly confident in what im doing and have used all products here multiple times each w/ the exception of igf...
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OK,,,let me switch it up on yall,,,

Heres what I have and would like to put to use in the next few months...

4mg igf
unlimited test e
unlimited tren e
about 38 250mg dnp caps from D
enough sdrol to run 30mg ed for 3 wks 2x ( i love this compound)

Anyone wanna throw out a 14-16 wk plan incorporating all these compounds??

thx for being honest w/ me here guys,,,im fairly confident in what im doing and have used all products here multiple times each w/ the exception of igf...
Allright- now we are getting somewhere.

Run the tren and test for 10-12 maybe 14 weeks. Then drop in your DNP with your post cycle. Keep in mind if you are going to use Dinitros DNP it is going to be hell on the 4-5th day at 400mg- I would ramp this up and down. Run 200mg for 3 days, then 400mg for 3 days and back down to 200mg for 2 days. If you use DNP correctly there is a shitload of supps you need to take with it in order to get the most out of it. Taking those in the middle of a cycle is a bit much.

Like I said- Keep it simple- with this cycle you will be looking cut as hell. I dont know Superdrol- never used it- so i cant help you there.
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Thx bro. Constructive critcism is what Im looking to get. I perfer longer cycles but do understand your concern.

I think ramping the DNP up and down is a great idea. Ill do 400mg for 3 days then 200mg for 3 days etc....

You should look into trying sdrol out,,,its a cheap compound,,,Ive found 30mg sdrol to = around 75mg winny for me,,, expect sdrol drys me out more...

BTW - I am using all the rights supps w/ my dnp. Ive read over many an article on good ways to use it.
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