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Old 03-06-2008, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Reversing Liver Damage

So, I have a few things to say.

It was a nice advertisement for the herbal industry, but once your liver is truly damaged (cirrhosis... i.e. scar tissue) it is too late to do anything about it -- nothing you take will reverse cirrhosis. Now, many people get fatty liver (the step before cirrhosis), whether it's because you're a fatass or you drink too much alcohol, or maybe even from AAS. Fatty liver is totally reversible... that is, if you stop whatever you're doing that caused it in the first place. No extra supplements are really needed. Many of the listed supplements contain antioxidants, which do help slow down destruction of any type of cells, but you can also get them from food or multivitamins. The other supplements... well, I don't think you really need any of them either... unless maybe you're planning on eating toxic mushrooms. If anyone has a question on any of them in particular, I'd be happy to answer.

As far as how you should really protect your liver, just use some common sense: eat a good diet, don't drink alcohol or do any recreational drugs, get the hep B vaccine if you like to have random unprotected sex, don't eat mushrooms you find on the ground, drink plenty of water, use 17-alpha-alkylated AAS sparingly, and follow the time on= time off recommendation for AAS cycling.

As far as your blood being too "thick," I assume your doctor was probably referring to a high hemoglobin count or high red blood cell count. As Anon had said, that is a known side effect from AAS, although I don't think it's even been shown to be dangerous by itself. If other things were elevated, too, it may be from dehydration, so drink plenty of water, which you should be doing anyways.

Also, when he mentioned benign vascular tumors, he might be referring to benign hepatomas (especially if he knows you're on AAS), which can be highly vascular. They're seen at much higher rates in people who use exogenous hormones, including both AAS and birth control pills. Although they're technically benign, and not very dangerous when small, they can grow quite large and occasionally rupture. About 2 weeks ago, we had a guy come into the hospital who was a long time AAS user (he did use rec drugs occasionally, too), with a chief complaint of abdominal pain, and he was found to be internally bleeding. I speculated that it may have been a ruptured hepatoma. I never did get to follow up his case to see if they found the cause for his bleeding, but regardless, it is something to keep in mind.

Sorry for the long post, and again, if anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to try to answer them.
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