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Originally Posted by OhHannah
I don't think that people should be punished or hated for being born with a certain color skin, or with a disability, or with a sexual orientation that about 10% of the population is born with. Gay isn't a choice; it's neurobiological wiring. I want our kids taught that it's wrong to hate or bully people who are different from you. As far as I can tell, since I am not gay myself, gay people want the same thing. I am straight, but I truly do not care who my classmates or co-workers sleep with as long as they are consenting adults. If I get a proposition I don't want to accept, I say "no thank you, I don't bat for that team" and get on with my life like a normal sane adult.
I guarantee that kids definitely are thinking about sex and sexual orientation, and no amount of trying by their parents is going to override their normal adolescent biology. We can deal with it realistically or we can hide our heads in the sand and try to deny reality.
I think it was more than embarrassment, I think it was an extreme pathological lashing out in rage and fear that has now completely destroyed the "normal" boy's life as well as killing another child. Can you honestly say that a 15 year old murderer is "normal"? Is that really what you want for your children, to be murderers who will spend the rest of their lives in jail?
There's a saying about walking a mile in your neighbor's moccasins, and it's relevant here. Some people do indeed become angry, bitter and hating, and it's not a really healthy way to live. There were a lot of very angry, bitter, hating black people in the era of slavery and discrimination. Given how horribly they were treated by their fellow humans, it's not too surprising. I think that everyone is responsible for their behavior and their choices even if they have every reason to be furious at society. Hating people rarely accomplishes anything good. But a certain amount of anger and militance is absolutely required to make any positive changes, no matter what people think of you for it.
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hannah, im hoping u have children when u make these statements. having been engaged with a girl with a 8 year old and im 24, i can have a stance on this because ive been in the situation. i will say first hand, its the parents fault 100% if their kid gets shot at school. they should have told their kid that they love him regardless of having a birth defect. that other kids will tease him and try to make his life hell but that he has to ignore them and show them he isnt so different. my girls son was mentally retarded, and a really shitty little kid when i met her. however over the course of our relationship the kids bad habits died down as i put my foot down and checked the little fucker. i wouldnt let him throw fits in public and get his way. i would let him stay up with me and watch tv even on school nights if he promised he would have a good day the following day at school. its all about making ur kids feel loved. these gay kids come from fucked up families where the parents are complete square bears and have no idea whats going on. they dont ask questions or talk with their kids like friends sometimes. i will tell u hannah, as a young guy myself, and having been a parent for a duration of time, i will tell u it aint easy. but thats the risk kids these days face when they dont jimmy up. u gotta make good of the consequences and be good parents. most parents allow MTV and cartoons babysit their kids and thats why we have all these fucked up sons of bitches running around. all these crack babies with no love at home. all these kids with birth defects because their parents were careless and did drugs when they were knocked up. before anyone starts spouting off about fags, retards or whatever, u better be able to speak from experience rather than speaking from 3rd person............